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Re: Recifal or FO?

Good evening
thank you for your reply,
is it essential to level it you think?I just checked closely it is less than 5mm I will need to empty all the water of the tank and the sump and remove the live rock..to level it

I wouldn't just change the tank though if you're going to level it do the stand on the floor.


Sorry but i didn't understand what do you mean by this :/
thanks a lot!! I will post pictures in a few minutes to show you the installation
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Re: Recifal or FO?

You're probly ok the way it is.I meant don't put something under the aqurium(on top of the stand) level the stand with something on the floor to raise the one side of the whole set up if you choose.



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Hey! sorry for the delay..
Just finished cleaning and doing the final touches for today..
Here's a picture,nothing special,in the sump i added 20kg to my reserved live rocks,so I got today 30+20kg live rocks,as you told me I need more than 30kg.
For the LR in the sump,it is because my aquarium still till today needed final touches before filling it,so i filled the sump waited 7h and placed the LR in it,tomorrow,24h will have past after the aquarium was filled,so I will put them in the aquarium,and place everything in its place in the sump..
As for the cover on the sump,it is because I am still using silicone to glue the sump "chamber"(close it) and I don't want any chemical products of silicone to reach the water of the sump.


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That's all for tonight I'll better go to sleep now it is 1:00am and tomorrow need to wake up at 7.
Good night!
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Hey Tom! I hope you are doing fine today!
I have placed the live rocks in the main tank,and i would really like to have your opinion, I will post pictures as soon as the water become clearer.



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For the sump.. I placed the skimmer,I placed the return pump and some small live rocks left...
But here I am lost :P
skimmer part:
Is it okay that the skimmer is emerged to that point??
I think the water that comes out of the skimmer(1) should go to the second chamber,but I don't have any pipe that is that large,will it be okay to turn it on till tomorrow without pipe?(Tomorrow I will get a valid pipe for the dimension of the output of the skimmer)

According to the sheet I should have an 8.6" water level to fix with the gate valve.So I measure 8.6inches from the bottom of the skimmer and this will be the water level?that's it?
But once the skimmer is turned on.. It is impossible to see the water level everything that you can see are bubbles..
P.S.: As you can notice,the sump chamber is not completely closed yet,I still have to stick the left part,and for the front 2 pieces of wood that would be the doors of the sump.
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Re: Recifal or FO?

You should be alright with the skimmer in the sump.You may have to control the pump(slow it down) but that shouldn't cause trouble.You don't have to return the skimmer to section 2 if it is diffacult.If you have to bring a drain pipe over the baffle and it is above the output of the skimmer it may slow the skimmer down even more.On my 120 reef the skimmer was hooked up to intake at the end of sump and return in the beginning(kind of seemed backwards),but it functions fine and do to large holes drilled in sump(acrylic) for it, I can't change it.
The water level will probly end up being the depth of the water in the sump,I don't think that can be changed(and actually think it will be a little higher).
Just try to only have foam (skimmate) in the neck of the skimmer,and it should work well.Protien skimmers can be very finicky so make adjustments (a little at a time) and give it plenty of time to adjust(hours).Pay close attention until you know it is running well(they can overflow the scum cup easily and quickly).Make sure you have time to observe it after you turn it on.
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thanks a lot for your answer!
I just tried to apply what you told me.. once I turned on the skimmer,a strange sound is coming from the pump,it is like hitting something.. and very few flow(none) is getting out of the pump.. skimmer is not working as a result!
what the hell did just happened? :S
If the pump is broken I will take it tomorrow to the pet store from where I got it..
What do you think?
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If you can take the pump apart to see the impellar you should check to make sure it is not broken or has something stuck in it.If you can un attach the pump from skimmer you can see if the pump will run in the sump.Sometimes things get clogged in pumps(in the impellar).



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Yeah i can detach it. Did it still not working even in sump ,open it nothing inside of it..

anyway it has one year warantee on the pump..
I think the best way is to take it and ask for a new one..
What do you think?
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Yeah get new one if it isn't working.
But with it open and plugged in try to spin the impellar with your hand.Maybe even take the impellar out and reinstall it,just to see and practice with it.But if you get it to work and unplug it and it doesn't start again definately return it to store.



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Good evening!
Today I went to the pet store,and showed him the pump,he tried it and it worked! He told me it must be an electricity power problem,I tried it again and it worked.. anyway he told me try it for a couple of week,if it still causes problem bring it again.
The skimmer is working right now,suffering to regulate it..but it is normal for the first week according to some lectures.

But I still have a small problem.. the overflow,is still making an annoying sound of aspiration,on the edges of the overflow in the aquarium.. I placed a bag of balls that will reduce the sound of the flow of the water,but still on the surface it is making sound(aspiration),if I add more will it make the noise disappear?
Also I have a problem with the pipe that take the water from the overflow to the sump,it seems the pipe is too big for my return pump,I always have air inside it,making also some noises,do you think I can close half of the pipe to reduce the air presence in it??
Here is a video of my overflow and the pipe I am talking about
Overflow and pipe sound - YouTube

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Re: Recifal or FO?

The noise may get less as the filter breaks in.Kind of like the skimmer.These thing will change in the first week or so as they break in or get "seasoned" by the water.
The video playeds for less than full time then quit on me ,but it looks like the flow is very fast leaving the overflow so you may be able to close the pipe alitt;e if you can?
When I had over flow boxes I always kept a folded towel on top of it to reduce the noise.
There will be some noise no matter what I think.My drilled tanks are quieter but I still hear a little water flow and such.



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I will try tomorrow to put something on the entry of the pipe in the over flow box,to reduce the flow,yes indeed it is very fast,I think the pipe is too large.
Thanks for the tip of the folded towel I'll try it.
I do understand that some noise will remain,but it is still very loud for the moment,from the aquarium the overflow,and from the sump the sound of the bubbles coming out from the large pipe(that i will try to put something on its entry),I hope to fix them in the coming days..
As for the sound of the return pump and the skimmer they are still acceptable
Thanks a lot Tom for your help! Evening!
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Hello Tom
how are you today? I hope you had a good week Here's the week-end! yeyy! hehe

So today I was looking at my live rocks,and i noticed "corals" on them? for now I discovered 2.. these are pictures of the first one:
is it possible? I heard that live rocks can bring some animals with them,but never read about corals...
Is it still alive?


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the second one,what is that? any idea?


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this one i am not sure about if it is algea or something else..



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Re: Recifal or FO?

the first picture is aptasia; a pest of an anenomes that will multiply like CRAZY.There is store sold aptasia killers like "Aptasia X".It's your choice whether you kill it or not.Some use lemon juice,and others will have sucess with peppermint shrimp on the small ones.
The second picture looks like some kind of sea cucumber? Definately let that hang around and see what it is.
The algae could be "chaeto" which is good and many fill their filters with it (macro algae,good for eating nitrates).
And the last pic is aptasia again.
Very Nice,all in all! Hope you're enjoying.
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Good morning!
Okk I will eliminate them today,using lemon juice the easiest to get for me.. I hope it will work.
For the cucumber,
Today it moved clearer pictures:




And for the skimmer Oh My God,it is driving me crazy!! I opened the valve to the max,and skimmer is overflowing a bit once every 10min,and then bubbles go down,all over again..If I close the valve a bit it is worse,cause the bubble go higher,I can't get them any lower since I opened the valve to the maximum.
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2 of my protien skimmers only had output control.I installed a ball valve on the pump into the skimmer which has proven to be one of my best "modifications".I can now make adjustments to intput/output/and air(through the venturi).
A simple ball valve on the input pump line will help,especially since your water level may be higher then skimmer desires being in the sump.
I use a syringe with hard air line to inject stuff into tanks.You will have to sneak up on the aptasia.Try to get the lemon juice right on them.



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Seems the skimmer,for the first time is skimming if we can say.. no more overflow,I begun to see yellow stuff in bubble for the first time accumulating in the cup.
Indeed,my sump doesn't let the skimmer to be in less water approx. half of it is in the water..
If it will overflow again,I will use your method for sure thank you

As for today also found a new animal,a starfish i think : here's a picture:



EDIT: for the aipstasia,I read that I can inject lemon juice into the mouth,what do you think? inject in it or on it?

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That would be a brittle or serpant star!Good deal ,a scavenger often not seen.I have a few LARGE ones that I rarely see.You've gotten some good hitchikers with your rock which is a good sign of rock quality!
As mentioned before the protien skimmer will take a while(week maybe) to break in and will then run more consistent.



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That's a good news for the live rocks
Yeah it looks like it loves hiding cause I saw it a couple of seconds and then she went back into the rocks..


Here is some picture of the live rocks setup:
If you think there is something to be changed,let me know please.
For the sand,how much should I wait before adding it??



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Looks really good!I would think you can add sand when ever you want.it shouln't cause any trouble or have much effect.It will give a few more hiding spots for pods and other hitchikers you haven't seen yet(I'll bet they're in there!).



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