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So I was just wondering on the living arrangements in my 75. After starting the tank I added 1 krib, 2 blue rams, 3 dwarf cichlids which are now looking lie Bolivian rams and 2 festives. Earlier today I added 2 jack Dempsey's and a convict. All are in the same size group of about 1-1.5 inches so I'm assuming all or juvinales right now. Before adding the JD and convict everyone did their thing with no problems. After adding the jd's and convict the tank atmosphere is pretty much the same. Just the usual chase and that's pretty much it , I haven't seen any bullying. The tank at 75 has lots of rocks, wood and plants so theres a lot of hiding spaces and cover. I had read the jd's and convicts are more aggressive than the rams, festives, and kribs.
So I'm just curious on your thoughts on my stocking. The LFS said if I see bullying or aggression I can bring them back.
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The jacks definately don't belong with your original stock.I don't think the convict does either but there is not as info saying so.
The jacks will either kill all others if they pair up, or just eat the others as they get much larger.
I would return them now just to avoid stress that could lead to a disease.



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sorry no one else has responded.
I came upon my answer by common sense(JD get BIG) and your original stock is "DWARF Cichlids".Even if they are from close to same geographics(think the JD is an American cichlid though?) it just didn't seem right.
I went to AQadvisor(I know ,I know) and all was good (even the convict) until I added the JD.WARNINGS went crazy.
It really is a long term compatabilty issue.Being the same size now or even close and being Juvis in a 75g is letting you experience the "wiggle room" many mention.You'll get away with this for a while(maybe a couple years IDK),but the JD will not be the victim at the end of the story ,that I'm almost certain about.



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Well I decided to bring the jd'S back. Man as juvineles they were great looking. I got a fire mouth and a blue acara. The acara is the big guy in the tank now. About 1.5-2,inches. Now everyone is happy but the acara hides like he is shy and hasn't come to eat at all. Got them yesterday and had the lights off to acclimate them. He his right away and hasn't been out since. At the store he had nice glimmering blue specs with a tan/ white body with orange dots on his tail. Get him on the tank and he has the blue and orange but the body has darkened up a lot. Almost as dark as the jd's were. He hasn't eaten or even tried to make an effort to get food. I've read they are shy but not sure how to get him comfortable.... Everyone really has minded their own business so not sure.

Oh also I picked up 3 other fish. They are blue spotted sunfish. Real small the biggest being maybe 3/4 inch. The krib and rams I think wanted to eat them but they held this own and found hiding spots. Now today they ate, swam around and no conflicts or chasing. This is what they should grow up to look. They go for 16 or so dollars from native distributors... Got mine for 15 cents each..win
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The blue spots are coldwater fish and do not do well at tropical temperatures. They will also get big enough to feed on the miniature cichlids.
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Yes, the sunfish will get huge.

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Re: my cichlid community..your thoughts

You are rocking back and forth between two good tanks, but putting them in one. You have to plan to be good at this. So you have to read up on how large each species will get at its max. If you are any good (and you sound skilled), they will get to that max.
They are Cichlids. They are territorial. The biggest fish wins.
The firemouth and acara are great fish - they will, however, murder your dwarfs.
And while the others are South American (gentler, in general), the convict is Central American (way tougher and rougher).
The kribs are West Afircan, and can handle themselves with the others.

Your prize is the Enneacacnthus gloriosus sunfish. It only grows to 9.5 centimeters max (under 4 inches), and is a dwarf sunnie. I would love to find that fish! It is peaceful and would probably flourish with your dwarf cichlids. The big cichlids (or soon to be big cichlids) are likely to kill them - a shame because while all your other fish could be considered common, you have a spectacularly rare find there.
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Oh man! I'm really upset now! I saw those same sunfish at my LFS a couple of months ago, in a tank full of assorted apistos. I thought it was so cute, but I assumed, like most sunfish, that it would grow far too big. I could have put it in my 55! Like the pic, it was just too cute. Now I'm kicking myself! I have no cichlids except an angel and a dorsigera in there, and I didn't get that fish! This time when I went in the store, they didn't have any. Oh well, missed out on that opportunity. Enjoy your cutie!

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