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Re: Pool to Pond conversion almost complete! But why are my Plecos dying?

So no carbon at all, or should I buy new carbon?
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Re: Pool to Pond conversion almost complete! But why are my Plecos dying?

None at all.It will remove any med you choose to use.In a small tank(40g in comparison to a 7000g pool) waterchanges will do way more ,way better than carbon ever could.For the most part ,carbon is short lived and generally low quality.



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Pool to Pond Conversion: Update, Ammonia the problem?

Ok.

I bought an API master test kit.

Ph: 7.5
Ammonia: .5
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0

Not. Freaking. Good. Ok, so what would y'all recommend for neutralizing ammonia in a 7000 gallon body of water? Could that .5 of ammonia be why my comets are dying and my koi are flashing?

Is it possible that my bacteria colony died because the filter doesn't run 24/7?

And I was able to get my hospital tank and filter up and running, but now I'm scared to put the fish in it because it isn't cycled. What do you all think of products like Stess Zyme and Quick Start? If I add those can I put the flashing fish in there sometime today? And if I buy enough of it, can I use it to revamp the bacterial colony in my pool?

I lost 2 more comets this morning. I've attached pictures of both sides to see if you all can see any signs of disease that I missed. As far as I can tell they look disease free. Which makes me think maybe the ammonia is killing them?


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Re: Pool to Pond conversion almost complete! But why are my Plecos dying?

At .5 I don'tthink the ammonia is killing them.For "fish in" cycling we often tell people to let ammonia(and nitrite) get to 1 ppm and then change water.
I don't see anything on the fish either.It will be another $10(probly ) but a copper test would be my next test.Although a great and powerful med in elavated levels it will kill fish along with everything else.
You need to look into Seachem SAFE(I'll link) to help deal with ammonia/nitrite and it is a conditioner(to remove chlorine and heavy metals).On the conditioner heavy metal note NO conditioner will remove or "detoxify" copper that I am aware of.Seachem "Cuprisorb" is a synthetic resin(chemical filter media) that specifically removes copper if this is the problem.
As far as your QT goes I would bother with bottled bacteria(I'm not against it{dump some in your pool;TSS or Dr Tims One and Only are 2 best brands}),but you should/can change water in a 40g often enough not to worry about it.The water changes will be best medicine and if treating for ich changing water everyday will allow for freshautolinker.com autolinking image meds everyday to replace the amount removed with volume of water.This is how I treat ich;I change water everyday and dose meds everyday for 7 days atleast.In a 40g this is affordable and manageable IMO.
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1 kilo will treat 200,000 gallons for chlorine/chloramine.This is a dry version of Prime so in elavated doses it can convert ammonia and nitrite to less toxic to fish forms.It will still show ammonia/nitrite on the test kit so follow directions on package.This is what I use on all my FW tanks.
I hope we get this worked out before you lose your Kio.



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Re: Pool to Pond conversion almost complete! But why are my Plecos dying?

Ok, bought a copper test kit.

No copper. Not even the teeniest tiniest hint of a reading. So I am back to square one.

Next step? I'm inclined to think now I should start pulling out each fish that I see flashing. Is that what you all would do?
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Re: Pool to Pond conversion almost complete! But why are my Plecos dying?

Ok so we decided to just dig a koi pond and turn the pool back into a pool.

Started the digging yesterday, and at about 9pm, we hit a water main. Totally flooded our neighbors yard.

Sooo we are working on fixing that today. And then when we are done, we will start constructing a pond that is about 1 foot below ground, and about 2.5 feet above ground. The final product should be between 2000 and 2500 gallons. I will need to thin out the school as they get bigger, but for now that amount of water should be more than sufficient. In the meanwhile, the fish will just have to stay in the pool pond. I have lost a couple more comets since I last posted, but no koi have died. The koi are still flashing, but are showing no other signs of distress. We are getting a massive algea problem, so I have cut back there feeding to once every couple of days instead of twice a day like I was doing.


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