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Re: Breeding fish in kiddie pools and stock tanks-II

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First brooder stock went in this weekend. One pool now has over 20 Orchard Endler females 10 males, 8 paleatus corys and two test swordtails in the breeder trap. The Endlers are adapting very well and are very active.

Next Pool, 6 female Least Killies and 4 males. 18 Black Bar Endlers females 7 males. For some reason the fish are acting strange, staying out of sight and in deep water. I'm doing a 50% water change just to be on the safe side. I held up adding anything else.

Tuesday - Thursday I'll be adding 10 female 4 male Least Killies to P-2 (Larger pool). All of the females have been pre-hit. I'm also planning on adding the first Showa Swords if all goes well. I'm going to do a good 20%-30% water change. I will be adding fish to the vat, here I'll add mixed Endlers of all three types. These will go to people who just want some nice fish with eye popping color. Additionally, both the Orchards and Black Bar pools will be getting 5-8 young Blond females. Vat-2 will likely get stocked with some Chilli Endlers that eventually will be joined by grow out swords or platys.

I managed to salvage last years P-1 6'X6'X12" pool and will be stocking in a good number, say 30 odd Endlers females. This pool will be allowed to just produce fry so later say July when the Belonasox drop a batch of fry they will have somewhere to live. The Endlers should have enough of a head start on them to feed the Belonasox until sexable size.

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Spotted about 20 Black Bar fry in their pool today!!! And it starts!
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The Black Bars and Orchards have fry in teir ponds. Here we go!!!!!!!
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Test platys and test sword groups in breeder traps are doing great. I'll start adding more tomorrow. I also got Vat-1 started with Chilli Endlers. I will add Least Killies, 6 females to both P-1 pools and 10 females to P-2. They should take off in 6-8 weeks tripling the count.
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Well the weather has been giving me a fit. Typically this time of year it is hot, but last week we had nights in the 50s and one night 50! The good news is the Endlers and Least Killies -LKs-hung over, the way too small, heaters at night and until mid-day. I pushed the sword and platy breeding traps as close to the heat as I could and it all seems to have worked out well. I have to be honest, this year's weather has been nerve racking.

P-1-Pools: Both the Orchards and Black Bars have well over 100 fry and the adults are eating as much as they can hold. I'm estimating the Endler females will all give birth again in the next two weeks and that will push the fry counts to well over 300 each. I have yet to see sword or platy fry, but I will keep looking for them until I find some. The LKs have tossed a few fry and the weather doesn't appear to bother them in the slightest. I see the corys every few days and they appear to be growing.

P-2 The crayfish are active and growing. I can see the little pathways they leave every morning and they seem to get around. Strange, they don't appear to have crossed each others path yet. No need for them to mate as they are marble crayfish and self-clone. The LKs have had the run of the pool for the first 3 weeks and are producing fry. Last year I learned it takes 8-10 weeks befor ethe LK population starts to explode. I currently have 12 females in there so imagin that tripling each month until October. I just added a dozen Orchard Endler females and two very nice males. I noted about 20 fry today.

Vat-1 is occupied by the Chilli Endlers. I picked out some really smoken males and will cull out all male fry for a month or two. This should help the over all bloodline. The few LKs have thrown fry and seem to be doing nicely.

Vat-2 Well here I decided to just toss in some odds and ends Endlers until I need grow out for the swords or platys. I decided to stock my oddball males as they have breathtaking color and electrify any tank. People like them so they will be sold or used as food for the belonasox.

To unoffically total it up, I have at least 250 Endler fry, 20-25 LK fry and a lot of tadpoles with legs. I still have another 25 brooder swords and 15-18 brooder platys to stock likely this week now that we should be past the weather. I'm really counting on the swords and platys to justify the cost this year, so keep your fingers crossed. I'll have photos later in the week.
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Well it is UPDATE TIME! Sorry this took so long!!!!

Pool1-1 6'x6'x12" The orchard Endlers have out done themselves. I started with less than 20 brooder females and now have upwards of 300 Endlers. I have observed at least 12 blond Endler fry. I have noticed a few Least Killies, I only stocked 1 trio. From the industrial breeder traps 12-14 sunset platy fry have emerged. I'm sure there are more and will be more. The Paleatus corys are getting big.

Pool-1-2 The Black Bar Endlers are right behind the orchards and with less than 20 brooder females I have upwards of 300 Endler in that pool. Here again I have observed a good number of Blond Black Bars. From the industrial breeder traps a few swordtail fry have emerged. I think the up and down temps 100's followed by 50s has slowed their production. The Anues corysa are growing quickly as well.

Pool-2 110"x72"x24" The Least Killies are breeding like nobodys business. I've observed at least 50 fry and there are likely a lot more. The small group of Orchard Endlers has dropped 2-3 batches of fry with upward of 125 Endlers total. The marble crayfish are growing and should reproduce once if not twice before fall.

Vat-1 125gal Vat. The Least Killies are reproducing rapidly, more so than I have ever observed prior. Don't know what got into them but I'll take it! The Chilli Endlers have dropped 2-3 batches of fry and I estimate 125-150 Endlers in there. I have not yet, but will introduce a few crayfish for growout purposes.

Vat-2 175gal Vat. I got a late start on this one so I just put some of my Oddball males and stray females from multiple lines in there. For some reason people love my Oddball males. I have two people who have bought no less than 25 each. I hear they make explosive color in a display tank. I also have several hundred tadpoles in this vat and I am systematically feeding them to my Pike Livebearers and Jacks.

P-1-3 Suffered a catastrophic structual failure and could not be reserected. I may restart it this weekend with a mix of Endlers. These will be for Pike Livebearer fry dining only.
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Sorry I have been lax, it has been hectic the last few weeks.

P-1-1 The Orchard Endlers ahve finally started to hit full steam with 350-375 and likely up to 50 more than that. I suppose the Orchards got to the Platys as they dropped over 30 fry. The Least Killies (LK) number between 20-30-I try not to net then as they are so small.

P-1-2 The BlackBar Endlers are still clearly leading the reproductive pack numbering an easy 400-450. The Swords have dropped one spawn, I am disappointed but think I got it figured out-We will know in two weeks. There are a few LK maybe 20 as it is hard to tell trying to wok around two 30" x 19" breeding traps. I did observe the Corys spawning one time but have no idea if any eggs or fry survived.

P-2 The LK's have really taken off and there are at least 50. Some of the first female LK's should start spawning on 1-2 weeks. Once the young LK's start spawing numbers will go up fast. I hope to get at least 150 LK's out of this pool alone. The Orchard Endlers are reproducing in this pool as well. There are between 50-100. This is the pool under the deck and it is poorly lite. BIG-GIANT NEWS-The Crayfish have finally done it and in a big way. There are at least 100 Mormarkrebs-Marble Crayfish in the pool. I relocated 2 to each other pool and vat and put two each in each breeder trap, 16 in all.

Vat-1 The Chilli Endlers are making up for fewer brooders and lost time as they number approximately 200 but likely more along the lines of 250. The LK's are picking up with no less than 25.

Vat-2 The Oddball Endlers are starting to get more productive with approximately 125-150. The last of the Tadpoles are living in this vat and are getting ready to morph into frogletts. The Tree Frogs had another good year and ove 100 frogletts have left the pools already.

QUICK NOTES: If you ever considered one of these projects than you just got to try. I have learned tons that has helped me in the fishroom indoors. My brooder Swords are 4"-4 1/2", Platys almost 3" and the Endlers and LK's grow at close to twice the rate as inside. I'm really excited about the Crayfish and in anticipation of success-Didin't get a one last year-I introduced ramshorn and pond snails into all outdoor containment areas. My inside Crayfish are eating snails like kings and looking very blue. I'm relocating large numbers of snails to P-2 to allow the snails to get a good head start on the hungry hord of small Crayfish. For now, the snails can avoid the Crayfish as P-2 is 24" deep and only filled 14" deep. Last big news item, I have a new breeder trap design and materials. I'm currently working with the manufactuer to get the prototypes built.

More soome and thanks for following along.
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