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First reef tank build equipment list...

So, I have decided that next winter's inside project for me is going to be a 40b reef tank build. I have never dabbled with saltwaterautolinker.com autolinking image before, but have been bit by the aquarium bug, and like everything I get into, I dive in head first! I've been doing a lot of reading, and have started up a list of things to start collecting for this project. I'd like to focus on the reef, and just have a few fish in this tank. Here is what I have come up with so far...

40g breeder tank (when petco has their next dollar a gallon sale)
20g long tank for the sump (waiting on the same sale)
DIY steel framed stand
DIY LED lighting
BRS 5 stage plus RO/DI 75gpd
Reef Octopus NWB 150 6" skimmer
Reef Octopus CR1000 calcium reactor
Reef Octopus media filter 4" chamber for carbon filtration
Mag Drive Supreme 3 pump 350GPH for the media filter
Iwaki MD-30 RT 600GPM circulation pump
Emperor Aquatics Smart UV Light 25W
Eihem Compact pump 300 for UV Light
Reefkeeper Lite Plus controler
Cobalt Aquatics Neo Therm 200W heater

That's what I've got so far. I'll probably build an overflow. I really don't want to do a refugium, and would rather keep that space to grow frags and such. Does it look like I am on the right track? This stuff adds up quickly, so I'll just pick away at ordering equipment over the next 8-9 months to spread out the cost. I'll be sure to document my build for everybody to see.

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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

Iwould look into a bigger pump for the sump.My 29 runs a mag 3 and it is very slow.I recently started to switch to DC pumps.They are silent and electronically adjustable,so you can get the exact flow you want.The jeboa 6000 would be enough to handle tank filter and maybe an accessory if you built a maniflod.The jeboa wave makers are AWESOME also.They have so many features they rival if not beat a tunze $400 set up for well under $100.
Heres alink to some jaboa stuff.Hit any item and they should have drop down for different sized pumps;
Jebao DC Series Submersible Return Pump with Controller for Reef Tank Skimmer on eBay!
And just me but I have all the equipment for a calcium reactor ,but will never use one.It is much easier to just dose calcium.some tanks eat it (my 75) and some only use a little(my 120).It's hard to say why?
The mags are loud and create a temp rise of 4-6 degrees,especially in smaller tanks.



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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

exactly the kind of info I was looking for. The Mag 3 was just going to pump to the canister filter, and I had the Iwaki in mind for the sump. It has a lot of really good reviews on the BRS site. If I were to go with DC pumps, would the controler still work?
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Can't say if the contoller would work with the filter pump(not sure what it would do?).The dc pumps have 6 speeds that are electronically controlled wersus old school ball valves.When you turn the speed down you actually lower you electric usage also.On average at full speed the dc pumps are 1/3-1/2 the wattege so on lower settings you are barely using any electricity.And they are completely silent!The wave mker is the bomb and my comparison to the tunze is only cause I have one and I really think the jeboa blows it away,besides have almost infinite control.
Another important part of reef keeping is control phosphate.A simple phosban 150 reactor and some GFO(from BRS) is a good investment.I run the phosban 150 on my 120.I bought the larger phosban,but since it has same size input and output even a larger pump doesn't really make it flow faster,so I don't use it.Things like GFO or bio pellets need to tumble in the reactor.



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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

can you hook up the phosban in series with say the carbon filter and run them off the same pump, or should they be on seperate circuts?
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With proper pump and good adjustable manifold(diy pvc with ball valves) you can run multiple reactors.
I wouls stay away from carbon especially in saltwaterautolinker.com autolinking image as it is linked with hole in the head and lateral line erosion for many fish.The protien skimmer(one of ,if not the most important piece of equipment) removes a much larger volume of organic matter than carbon ever could.The skimmer is the one piece of equipment not to skimp on.In general most look for skimmers rated for 2x the actual volume of tanks.You can't get a "too big" skimmer .Counting your sump in I be looking for a skimmer rated for at least a 100 gallon tank.I run an eshops 150 on my 29 without issue.
You should try to fit the largest sump you can in the stand so you don't have to fill everyday due to evaporation.Even large sumps with a overflow seperating the last compartment only really hold 3-4 gallons.My 120 has such an overflow (I hate the overflows) and I have to top off every other day 2 gallons at least or my pump will draw air.When I build sumps I don't install an overflow and easily have 5-10 gallons available before I have to top off.



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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

Ok. That makes sense... I'll revise my list.

40g breeder tank (when petco has their next dollar a gallon sale)
20g long tank for the sump (waiting on the same sale)
DIY steel framed stand
DIY LED lighting
BRS 5 stage plus RO/DI 75gpd
Reef Octopus NWB 150 6" skimmer
Reef Octopus CR1000 calcium reactor Maybe a doser instead
2 Jeboa 6000 pumps... 1 to run the sump return, then 1 to run manifold for accessories
Emperor Aquatics Smart UV Light 25W
Reefkeeper Lite Plus controler
Cobalt Aquatics Neo Therm 200W heater
Phosban 150 for GFO
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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

I would dump the UV too, not unless you're planning on a heavy fish load. I don't see any main tank water circulation pumps? I have been using the Sunsun from ebay on my frag tank and they work well for the price...the down side is the cord is really short so you might have to uase an extension cord. I would seriously think about dosing. I ran a calicum reactor for 3 years and was unhappy with the results for holding my alk stable.
Also, I have never run a phosban reactor in all the 15 years of reef keeping. I am not saying you don't need one, but I would run my tank awhile first before deciding if it's necessary to use one.
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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

Well, I guess I have over thought it a bit. Sounds like I don't need as much equipment as I thought! I will certainly put a couple power heads in the tank though. I just hadn't researched them yet. I am not afraid to spend a little more for something that is going to last. I would like to go bigger, but I don't trust the floor for too much more weight than the 40b with a 20L sump. Might stick a 30 in, but I would call that max. I already have several gun safes on this floor, and I didn't build it. I imagine in a few years I will be moving to a bigger house, and have already told my better half that she should be ready for a big tank in the new place!
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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

Better to over think then under think IMO!
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Re: First reef tank build equipment list...

Definately agree with tike,it is better to learn more than you will need about keeping reefs.If you are now saving money on the set up I would recommend investigating an ozone generator.Your reef keeper should have an OPR option and all you would need is an OPR probe and possibly an air pump to get ozone from generator to protien skimmer.The computer would control it being on and off according to how high you set the desired OPR.I run ozone without a computer,and think it makes a pretty big difference.I got a computer with last set up ,but found it really didn't do anything I wouldn't rather do myself?I don't use it at all!



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What is the benefit of ozone? Does it help promote coral growth?
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Ozone makes the air going through the protien skimmer"stickier"to all the organic crap.A good anaology would be one used in asbestos abatement on the use of soap or surfactants"makes water wetter".
Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 1: Chemistry and Biochemistry by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com
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That makes sense. Good analogy.
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