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First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Setup:
  • Spectrum Brands Marineland 60 Gallon Heartland Aquarium Combo
  • Spectrum Brands Marineland Magnum 350 Canister Filter (~3/4 bio rings the rest carbon)
  • Spectrum Brands Marineland Precision Submersible Heater 250
  • Spectrum Brands Marineland Maxi-Jet 1200 (1x 2x Power Head & 2x Laminar Flow Configuration)
  • KollerCraft Tom Surface Skimmer Intake (attached by removing flexible tubing and canister intake strainer and using included elbow)
  • Aquarium Technology, Inc. Filter-Max III Pre-Filter (currently sponge held in place by bottom portion of skimmer intakeUsed on Magnum intake. Need a second for Hydor Pro as second one broke/elbows broke.)
  • CaribSea Ocean Direct™ Caribbean Live Sand (60 lbs)
  • Real Reef Solutions Live Rock(20# Natural Rock, 20# Shelf Rock, 15# Branch Rock)
  • Lifegard Aquatics LED Digital Thermometer
  • Hydor Koralia Smart Wave Pump Controller
  • Hydor Koralia Evolution 850 (x2 connected to Smart Wave)
  • Hydor Slim Skim Protein Skimmer (Not Currently in use because of canopy height and tank rim)
  • Hydor ETH In-Line Heater 300 watt, 5/8"
  • Hydor Hydor Professional External Aquarium Filters PRO 350 (Using included spray bar return)
  • Aquatic Fundamentals Stands & Canopies 55 Gallon Canopy

Livestock:
  • 11/20/2015 3x Astraea Turbo Snail (Astraea tecta)
  • 11/20/2015 1x Mexican Turbo Snail*(Turbo fluctuosa)
  • 12/1/2015 2x Scarlet Skunk Cleaner Shrimp*(Lysmata amboinensis)
  • 12/1/2015 5x Banded Trochus Snail*(Trochus sp.)
  • 12/1/2015 1x Firefish, Purple*(Nemateleotris decora)
  • 12/1/2015 1x Blood Red Fire Shrimp*(Lysmata debelius)
  • 12/1/2015 1x Royal Gramma Basslet*(Gramma loreto)
  • 12/1/2015 1x Firefish*(Nemateleotris magnifica)
  • 12/1/2015 5x Azure Damselfish*(Chrysiptera hemicyanea)
  • 12/1/2015 1x Orchid Dottyback, Captive-Bred ORAź(Pseudochromis fridmani)
  • 12/8/2015 1x Super Tongan Nassarius Snail*(Nassarius distortus)
  • 12/8/2015 1x Emerald Crab*(Mithraculus sculptus) Last seen Feburary/March 2016

    2nd Batch Of Live Stock 1/12/2016
  • 1x Bicolor Blenny (Did not survive)
  • 1x Purple Stripe Dottyback
  • 1x Firefish
  • 5x Azure Damselfish (Only 3 survived)
  • 1x Brittle Sea Star Last Seen Feburary/March 2016
  • 5x Mexican Turbo Snail
  • 2x Lettuce Sea Slug, Green
  • 2x Fighting Conch
  • 2x Bumble Bee Snail
  • 10x Astraea Turbo Snail
  • 10x Nassarius Snail
  • 10x Cerith Snail
  • 2x Margarita Snail
  • 2x Babylon Snail
  • 5x Banded Trochus Snail
  • 1x Serpent Sea Star Last Seen February/March 2016
    Most of Snails died off February/March 2016. Nassarius breeding April 2016.



Hit unexpected financial problems which has put a hold on going any further.
I was planing on getting 55 lbs mixture of Real Reef or 80 lbs of Life Rock. Which is why I have not got my circulation pump or power head.

I have started a custom intake and return manifold out of 3/4" CPVC(should have done 1", but already had some 3/4" fittings), but wanted to build a cabinet for it since the Marineland stand is so small and can't hold really any canisters. I wanted to use the Magnum as a dedicated polisher eventually.

With finances on hold towards live rock, any recommendations on what I could stock it with now ?

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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Cannot help with something like that but I know how you feel with the cabinet. I mean it looks nice but a canister in it is not an option.

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Cannot help with something like that but I know how you feel with the cabinet. I mean it looks nice but a canister in it is not an option.
New it would be nothing but a stand for the tank when I deiced to purchased it. But a 60 gal, light hoods, and stand for same price as 29 gallon bow front starter kit. Cheaper or around same price as 50 gallon starter kit. I would be stuck with no where to put the aquarium then with out the stand...was an easy decision.
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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Cant help either just wanted to keep it bumped for someone else to help.

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Here are some horrible photos of current setup I took today as I was cleaning. I think I got specific gravity to 1.023 finally, will recheck tomorrow after good 24 hrs of water circulation. Been some good practice over last 2 months with wc, I think I got it down.

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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Too bad you already got a stand. I could have showed you a link where it shows you how to make your own stand out on concrete blocks and wooden boards for cheap.

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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Have live rock coming in from Drs. F&S on Thursday.
Real Reef:
  • 20# Natural Rock
  • 20# Shelf Rock
  • 15# Branch

Added two Maxi-Jett 1200 in Laminar Flow setup. I hope to get plumping and cabinet setup when I add the live rock to the tank.

Trying to plan live stock.
1x Royal Gramma Basslet (Gramma loreto)
1x Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani)
1x Purple Firefish (Nemateleotris decora)
1x Firefish (Nemateleotris magnifica)
1x Exquisite Firesfish (Nemateleotris exquisita)
1x Helfrichi Firefish (Nemateleotris helfrichi)

Looking at Drs. F&S prebuilt invert cleaner packages.
Detritus Attack Pack - Ultimate
Algae Attack Pack - Ultimate
Would I go with 55 gal pack for each or smaller for bio-load reasons. Would any of the inverts and fish need caution or not be compatible at all?

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29 Gallon GSP Tank
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Also added Maxi-Jet 1200 setup as a power head.

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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

Your going to need egg crate of a lid for this tank, you got a lot of jumpers in there.
Use the Maxjets in Circulation Mode, that will get you the best flow.
You don't need that many snails or hermits. I also don't advise hermits as they can turn into meat eaters, if you ever plan on corals, they are opportunists.
Gotta watch, you have peaceful fish, but can get territorial, being as they all claim rock work.

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+1 on the snails and hermits. They will end up fighting and killing each other. Hermits are a hit or miss. Sometimes they go about their lives and you never notice them and sometimes they wreck havoc. I personally have only had problems with 2 of them. Both for some reason no matter where I threw them in the tank would come back to this one montipora and just chill on it. They weren't eating it, just pestering the coral by always crawling on it non stop. Montiporas are like weeds so it was no big deal but if it was a more sensitive expensive coral it would of been instant banishment hahah. I eventually banished the two trouble makers to the anemone tank where they ended up wandering into my 10" green carpet nem and become lunch. You should look into some reef safe wrasses, youll love their personality. Some are beneficial for the tank also, for example the melanarius wrasse will go around the tank looking for and eating parasites off corals if there are any. But there are a lot of wrasses out there to choose from with awesome colors that'll really brightin the tank up. The little neon cleaner gobies are awesome also. I have one and my fish once in a while will go into the gobies pit stop for a good clean and go about the day then the next fish comes in. Its quite comical actually the goby tries to swim into both my tangs mouths and gills to clean but my tangs aren't big enough for that yet. Once in a while when I put my hand in the tank the gobie will come out and starts latching onto my hand like I was a fish and will follow my hand around the tank doing it. You can also look into Anthius. Once the tank matures a little more you could probably get away with buying a very small foxface and watch it grow until you have to re home him due to his size. No matter what anyone says or how much you want one absolutely do not get a yellow tang for your sized tank, besides the tang police coming in and saying it wouldn't have enough swimming room which i personally wouldn't worry about the yellow tangs health its the rest of your fish. Yellow tangs are super mean and will harass the entire tank until everything is dead. Its not about water volume at that point its the physical space, your other fish will eventually have no where to hide from the relentless attacks. I had this issue in my old 75 and had to give it back to the store for store credit....never again!

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I have added livestock. My 5 damsels are the most aggressive. Almost all of the fish have stuck to the right side. Though after 5 days have spread out a little more. They all seem to defend the water around them, but none appear to be picking on each other. Only livestock that stays in place is the fire shrimp on the largest piece of shelf rock under 7 other pieces stacked above, quite amusing to watch the two scarlets forget it is there. The Orchid is the smallest fish so it tends to hide in the rock more during the day and is defiantly the most timid.

Hope next week goes as good as first 5 days.

Will have to remove the MJ-1200 in Laminar, way to powerful for all of the fish and shrimp. Will probably get two Hydor Koralia Evo 600 or 850. I have a back ground, will try and get on when I do a large water change.

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I replaced the two MJ-1200 with Evo 850 and it pretty much immediately killed everything in my tank that had a swim bladder on 12/16/2015. The lucky ones died immediately. Had most of my snails die off next 48 hours from shock from removing live rock to get at trapped dead fish and moving them, quick spike in ammonia, and 50%+ water change. Some how shrimp survived the ammonia spike and water change. The 2nd Damsel and Gramma died with in 12 hours of discovery of the loss, leaving me with only one damsel and the dottyback. Both the Azure Dasmselfish and Orchid Dottyback are back in DT, eating and swimming fine now.

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Re: First Marine Tank 60 Gal

sorry to hear :(

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How in the world would a pump kill fish by just being replaced?
An MJ in Circ mode puts out 1300gph, an 850EVO only puts out 850gph, how would lowering the gph kill all your fish??

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How in the world would a pump kill fish by just being replaced?
An MJ in Circ mode puts out 1300gph, an 850EVO only puts out 850gph, how would lowering the gph kill all your fish??
The only thing I can think of is difference in how water is diffused by two pumps either caused trauma/injury or stirred up some bacteria/parasite from sand bed that the MJ did not to cause the Swim bladder disease. Water parameters where perfect when I changed out pumps. I just don't understand stepping down from in strength on pumps, plus I had the EVOs pointed at the glass so they should have even been more diffused that the MJs. Had to be something nasty in the sand bed.

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Something extremely bad in the sand bed. You have a Deep Sand Bed?? Release Hydrogen Sulphide did ya?

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No deep sand bed, only have enough for about 1 to 1.5 inch deep throughout most of tank. But that is what seems most likely.
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That sucks, I am sorry to hear that.

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