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You might have had a Nitrate spike with all that algae growing in. You should add some. pics.

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Yea I think it was from me over feeding. I'm so worried about the cories eating I know I'm putting in more pellets them I need. Plus I still drop in a couple of 2 diffrent types of sinking wafers. One is a straight algae waffer and other is one that is for downward facing mouths catfish by hikira. So ive been switching to every other Dai feedings and trying to do less at a time.
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This was from Saturday with the lights on. I did do a water change and sucked up most of the hair algae off the plants today Monday 1/18. but didn't realize I didn't take any pictures after. So here are a couple more pics pre water change and algae removal. I work over night so I'll try to get pics tomorrow when I get home after light come on.

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Left side front of tank. My arrow head is growing crazy. Already have one pad at surface of tank and other one half way up. But I'm gonna have to move the banana plant. I think to many lilly pads on that side


Right front side my Ludwiga filled in nice. But I'm missing the red. I might start dosing something bit don't have no idea what to use. Excel or just co2 boost from api?


To down shot. That pad is now fully open and broke the surface

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Finally got around to doing a video of the tank. I'm really thinking about dosing but Just dont have a clue what our how to start. Any suggestions? Want to get rid of this hair algae. I read something about excel supposed to help stop that or even another guy that sells his own co2 algae busting liquid. But I'm not sure what to do. Any suggestions please fire away


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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

I think excel already has a good enough reputation. I also have just set up my own tank about a month ago and I am undergoing some algae issues. This is normal in a freshautolinker.com autolinking image planted tank so Im not freaking ot about it. You in the other hand, have a crisis in your hands.

I would say to give excel a try. Scrub off the stuff in the glass and start dosing daily. Of course it would bw better i you didnt have any fish in the tank because you could just overdose the tank with Excel, but seeing as you have fish in there, just go the simple route and wait it out by dosing excel.

Ive also heard that you can sometimes scrape the hair algae, but Ive never tried so myself. Might even have to remove the hair algae infested lights.

ANOTHER THING!!! You seem to have quite a bit of light in the tank, you should try having a pause in your lighting schedule just in case it is too much light that is causing the outbreak. For example I have a schedule of 3hours ON, followed by a 4 hour break and then back ON for another 3 hours. Just remember you cant replace light intensity by leaving your lights on for a long time.
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Yea l already scraped off the glass and this hair algae sucks up pretty easy when I do water changes but I know I'm not getting it all off. I was dumb it was doing great but I decided to extend my light time to get a little algae for ottos I wanted to get. I found that having algae in the tank already before getting them kinda helps acclimate them better to the tank. But my lfs just has been on back order for last month and a half so I let it get out of hand for nothing. Now I'm fighting it back like crazy. So if I go with Excel what would I be dosing at?
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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

Damn your plants grow so fast! What is the temp and pH in that tank? I am trying to figure out what besides black magic is making those plants flourish so quickly.
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Damn your plants grow so fast! What is the temp and pH in that tank? I am trying to figure out what besides black magic is making those plants flourish so quickly.
Nothing much good lighting. And most my plants are fast growers in general. I don't use any fertilizers as of yet. Temp is set at 78 and I know I'm gonna get yelled at for this but I have never checked any numbers on this tank. When I
Plant heavy like this I just take time and add stuff slowly and just let the plants take care of the tank. I do small groups at a time and wait. And try to do weekly or every 2 weeks water changes. I guess I do about 25%-35% at a time.
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Excel has their directions as to how to use it and how much to add.

At first use or after a 40% or more water change you use a capful for ever 10 gallons. Then afterthat a capful for every 50 gallons everyday or eveey other day.

So I think for yours it would be 4 and a half capfuls to start with on the first day you start dosing. Then a bit less than one capful everyday or every other day.

You should definitely try to correct your light schedule for sure if you have yet to fix that. Just remember that you will always have algae. Its just a matter of controlling it to the extent where it doesnt take over the tank.
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Excel has their directions as to how to use it and how much to add.

At first use or after a 40% or more water change you use a capful for ever 10 gallons. Then afterthat a capful for every 50 gallons everyday or eveey other day.

So I think for yours it would be 4 and a half capfuls to start with on the first day you start dosing. Then a bit less than one capful everyday or every other day.

You should definitely try to correct your light schedule for sure if you have yet to fix that. Just remember that you will always have algae. Its just a matter of controlling it to the extent where it doesnt take over the tank.
Thanks for the info. Yea I cut down the actual full light down to 7 hrs of full 6500k light. I don't think the algae is growing more but just staying. But same for my plants. They don't seem to be growing any more. The Anarchis I used to have to clip every 2 days but I haven't cut them in about a week. Only thing that he was another lilly from the arrow head giving me 3 lilly at to of tank
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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

Yeah. Ever since I placed my new lights in the fishtank, my amazon sword seems to have stopped growing. Im not super bummed about it since I have a small 5 gallon, but the leaves are not as green and they are not growing anymore.

Im gonna wait out another 3 weeks just to see if I get any growth to see if it just needed to get adjusted. Or I will switch my light schedule. Maybe Ill do a 3 hr break instead of 4 hrs. And make the light be on for 3 and a half hours at a time insteadof having them on for 3 hrs at a time.

Also bought a little dropper so I can be consistent in my excel dosing.
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Good idea with the dropper. I'll have to confiscate one of the children's medicine droppers.
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Oh no no no. You want a clean one that hasnt been used before. Or one that hasnt been used with chemicals. You dont want to kill your fish. That or completely clean one. I dont know how but yeah. Theyre about $4 on amazon.

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One thing I just read. If you put brand new substrate in your fish tank, the substrate might be just overdosing your aquarium with too many nutrients. Could be a thing but seeing as you have so many plants it might just be the light. Hopefully it's just the insane amount of light you placed into the tank. Make sure you do plenty of water changes too.

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One thing I just read. If you put brand new substrate in your fish tank, the substrate might be just overdosing your aquarium with too many nutrients. Could be a thing but seeing as you have so many plants it might just be the light. Hopefully it's just the insane amount of light you placed into the tank. Make sure you do plenty of water changes too.
Yea this was a freshautolinker.com autolinking image new setup. So I think that is what gave me the initial boat in my plant growth. Just my [email protected]$$ fault messing with light to get more algae for some ottos that I've still haven't gotten.

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You know, you can get ottos from a petsmart or petco. Try looking for another fish store near you. I know my favorite small fish store sometimes doesnt always carry everything I would like so I looked around for another store and found some other stores within a 20 minute radius.

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You know, you can get ottos from a petsmart or petco. Try looking for another fish store near you. I know my favorite small fish store sometimes doesnt always carry everything I would like so I looked around for another store and found some other stores within a 20 minute radius.
Yea petsmart always have some in. But I'm scared to buy from them. Lay time I bought a couple Plecos from them they have my whole tank ich. I had bought all my other fish from aquarium center with my last tank except the Pleco and boom ich every where. I don't have room for a qt tank and I've never had a problem with aquarium center fish. Just acclimate and drop in. So this time I said no fish from petsmart or petco. Only other place would be online ordering but being as is in the 40 I don't want to order any animals.
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Ok so today I decided it was time to start dosing. I bought a 500 ml bottle of both seachem flourish and flourish excel. I did some trimming today and replanted about 4 clippings of cabomba and about 6 clippings anarchis back into the tank. I also now have 5 lily's all the way to the top. Since wad my first dose o did the recommended dosing of excel and flourish. I did do a little to much flourish I think but I figured for first dose is fine. But for the relationship dosing I'm basing it off of 40 gallons some my substrate is 3"-4" I calculated my water column as 20"long X 18"wide X 26" tall instead of 30" tall. And my light schedule has changed for last few days and this that actually helped cut back on some algae but not much. Here goes light schedule and dosing as of today.

Lights
10 am blues only
12 pm whites and blues
7pm blues only
9:30 pm all off

Dosing
Excel: 4 1/2 caps full(approx 22.5 ml initial start up dose)

Flourish: 1 cap full (approx 5 ml)

My continued dose of excel will be 4 ml every day till I get rid of the algae then possibly switch to every other day. And flourish will be 3.5 ml once a week. That again is based of 40 gallons taking into account my 4" of substrate

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Nice, this will not only help cut back on the algae but it will help green up the plants and increase growth if done correctly.

Are you using RO water by any chance?

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Nice, this will not only help cut back on the algae but it will help green up the plants and increase growth if done correctly.

Are you using RO water by any chance?
No unfortunately not. I use a python water change thing and seachem prime. I was thinkingI was thinking about using distilled water from the store but just think that will cost to much. I might buy couple and use as my top off.
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