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So I am planning to do a 5 gallon planted cherry shrimp tank. I am planning for the back 2 inches of the tank to be vals, with 2 anubias nana spread out through out the tank, with a lawn of dwarf hair grass. My question is, can I keep those plants in a 5 gallon only with cherry shrimp?

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Re: Planted tank question

The vals may grow a bit large for the tank. However cherry shrimp will be fine for awhile. You may need another for when it gets overstocked.

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I plan to trim the vals back to the top of the water so they don't lean over on the water's surface. As for the red cherry shrimp, I am planning to take about half of them after they have over stocked the 5 gallon and put them in my planted 29 gallon tank. That oughta hold them for a while, after that tank gets filled up, I might spread to other tanks or sell them to my LFS.

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Sounds like a great plan!

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Thanks, I am eager to sell the cherry shrimp to my LFS. The store sells them for a bunch I think. I asked her once about the price and she said that I would have to buy around 15 to get the shrimp at $5 each. I won't buy them for that price but I will sell them at that price to the store .

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Re: Planted tank question

1) You won't have any issues with an overstocked RCS tank. They'll just grow a bit smaller and breed slower.
2) Jungle val pops up everywhere. I keep it in a 20 long and under moderate lighting and trimming light isn't an issue. Do plan to be regularly removing sprouts if you expect to keep it along the back wall.
3) Your LFS is only going to give you somewhere between 30% and 50% of what they sell things for, and that assumes they have a market to sell them to.
4) I wouldn't start a RCS tank with less than 12 shrimp and advise 24. I started mine with 24 and occasionally mix in shrimp from other populations.
5) Catching shrimp under anubias leaves is going to be a pain, leave some clear space.
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3) Your LFS is only going to give you somewhere between 30% and 50% of what they sell things for, and that assumes they have a market to sell them to.

5) Catching shrimp under anubias leaves is going to be a pain, leave some clear space.
#3 is correct. I sell RCS and occasionally bunches of moss to my LFS and I'm given 30% of their sales price. If you can get more than that, that would be a great deal.

#5) when it comes time to catch shrimp, I find it easiest to toss a few fish food pellets into the tank and wait a few minutes. Since mine are in with community fish, they love the pellets and will swarm them. I can usually grab 5 or 6 with each scoop of the net. I find catching shrimp much easier than catching fish.
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Re: Planted tank question

I've got cherry shrimp galore in a 100 gal. There is so many that at any given time all I have to do is dip the net and will grab anywhere from 15+.

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2) Jungle val pops up everywhere. I keep it in a 20 long and under moderate lighting and trimming light isn't an issue. Do plan to be regularly removing sprouts if you expect to keep it along the back wall.
3) Your LFS is only going to give you somewhere between 30% and 50% of what they sell things for, and that assumes they have a market to sell them to.
4) I wouldn't start a RCS tank with less than 12 shrimp and advise 24. I started mine with 24 and occasionally mix in shrimp from other populations.
5) Catching shrimp under anubias leaves is going to be a pain, leave some clear space.
I am going down the line.
I am going to break off any ones that grow further then I want, and remove runners. They will go into other tanks .
The lady said they get them in occasionally when someone asks for them. That to me means "they sell for a lot when we get them in" I am ok with a bit less then what they would sell them for.
I am buying either 10 or 20 shrimps. The number depends if the shrimp go off sale by the time I buy them.Cherry Shrimp B Grade / qty10 - Alpha Pro Breeders
I have a plan. I am going to put a small clear drinking cup into the water and put some food inside the cup. When they get into the cup, I quickly slide the net over the mouth of the cup .

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Re: Planted tank question

I bet, if you put the net in the tank, and toss some food into it. The shrimp will catch themselves!!


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Ooh that sounds cool. I will let you know if they do that when I get them to breed.

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Re: Planted tank question

make a trap out of a plastic bottle best way to catch them.as far as selling them to pet stores good luck if you can get 30% of what they sell them for youve done good.also most of the time they want to give you store credit.i had 600 angelfish and sold about half of them for $1.00 each and what was left I sold 3 for$1.00 to the pet store but he didn't tell me till I got there it would be store credit needless to say I got ripped.funny thing is I went back to the store about a week later he was selling them for $6.00 each and had sold most of them and then had the nerve to tell me if I had any more fry he would buy all I had that will never happen.the only reason I had the babies to start with is because I had never done it before and will never do it again.
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I have $20 bucks in store credit for some fish and snails I gave them. Those fish and snails were worth at least $50! I am gonna try to bargain with her to give me at least $2 per shrimp. The absolute minimum I will go is $1.50 per shrimp.

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Re: Planted tank question

If you have a local aquarium plant club you may get your starter shrimp for free.I live in the Dallas area and traded with fellow club members for my starter colony.Now I have a 10 gallon rili and crystal black shrimp tank a 75 gallon cherry shrimp tank and my 150 gallon is a discusautolinker.com autolinking image tank and has hundreds of cherry shrimp.Where you live they may be harder to get but around here from private people you can buy them for $1.00 each ive sold a bunch of them to people that didn't have anything to trade.The fish store your dealing with seems like they may do right by their customers.As far as plants my shrimp seem to like there moss and fissidens fontanus.But with that being said shrimp seem to like any plant but the babies seem to spend most of there time in the mosses.All of my tanks are very densely planted that's why if I need to catch shrimp a use a trap.

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Take but Vall. tortifolia.
The leaves are only 8 inches long.
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The fish store your dealing with seems like they may do right by their customers.
This is a mostly sw store with a bit of fw in the back. Most of the fw is cichlids. It is a bit more expensive then a normal store like petco, but I like it much better. It has been going on for 10 years. I will tell you more but I have to get my stuff ready for school now XD.
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Oops sorry, I forgot to tell you about them. Apparently they have not been in business for 10 years, only 3 years :/. Here is their website About Neptune's Reef ? Neptunes Reef

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I went to petco today looking for some stuff. I went in looking for 2 pots of dwarf hair grass and a 5 gallon tank. I only came out with 2 pots of dwarf hair grass. I couldn't believe that they were out of 5 gallon tanks. I asked when they will get more tanks in and the dude said that he gets tanks in on mondays, My mom also left her phone number to call. I do plan to come back on monday even if mom does not get a call. I currently put the DHG in my other 5 gallon tank with my bettaautolinker.com autolinking image in it until I can get the tank. I am also planning to buy 2 more pots of DHG, if they have any left so it will spread faster.

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[QUOTE=big b;639466I am also planning to buy 2 more pots of DHG, if they have any left so it will spread faster.[/QUOTE]

That is if the dhg will grow for me, it hasn't done well for me before but I think I figured out the problem. Last time, I took the dhg out of the pot and planted it, this time I am going to leave it in the pot.

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That is if the dhg will grow for me, it hasn't done well for me before but I think I figured out the problem. Last time, I took the dhg out of the pot and planted it, this time I am going to leave it in the pot.
I don't want to go in to the list of things that might be your problem, but unless it was getting uprooted by fish that wasn't your problem.
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