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OK I got my new 120 with dual overflows up and running over the weekend.Everything is up to "snuff" the only difference in water quality is tank housing discusautolinker.com autolinking image now has KH of 3 and new 120 has KH of 4(not a big diff I don't think).I have 2 sponges(6"x3"x3") that are fully cycled(in my 180 for months).My question is ;should I install sponges to new filter(berlinner wd125,running with mag 18) and place fish right in, or install filters and wait a little?My thought is the cycled sponges with no life in tank will lose potency.Should I install sponges and add some ammonia and test to see if they are effective?For the time being this tank will house only two (breeding pair) discusautolinker.com autolinking image.Eventually if necessary I will divide tank for a second pair as I may have another pair who could breed also(time will tell).I'm in no hurry,just want to do this right and would be heartbroken if I were to lose my fish(because of a mistake I'm responsible for).I understand the cycle,and cycling so I really think they could go right in,but want feed back from others(I value other opinions).



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You are probably correct that the fish could go right in but it hurts nothing to do a dose of ammonia to have peace of mind!
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discusautolinker.com autolinking image are in.Thanks Dalfed for input!



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We can't believe you until we see PICS! :D
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Pictures will be in my gallery shortly.They seem to have settled in over the last couple days.I probably was to concerned as I change enough water and have pretty massive filteration for just 2 fish.discusautolinker.com autolinking image(fed properly) ranke right up there with goldfishautolinker.com autolinking image and oscars as far as waste creators.Possibly why so many keeper/breeders change so much water.No eggs yet ,but they get there fair share of good food without distraction now,so hopefully soon.



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pics up in 120 album/or recent photo gallery(whole site).It's true and there will be documentation(photos and my BS) when they lay eggs.I'm super phsyched to think they will breed,and I'll get a chance to raise such a special fish.I love keeping,but this is the prize for me!



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Took the words right out of my mouth. the nerve of some people..



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I know you will enjoy it.posts some pictures?
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And so as promised,the BS begins: this is a picture just taken 5 minutes ago of the first spawn of my discusautolinker.com autolinking image in their new 120!I may not know alot ,but I do pride myself on being observant.
Of all the reasons there are to have 2 heaters ,even after reading such,I would not have thought!The eggs are on the heater!
I gave them a nice big terra cotta pot,and 2 fantastic red slates,but no , they lay on the heater.Obivously I have unplugged that heater(there is another viewable in 120 gallery).
Start the clock as 48 hrs. is hatch time under proper conditions, and right about the time line they followed in the 180 community.
I will be shutting down the overflows in about 36 hrs and running the tank on sponge filters from then till I move fry or they grow large enough.
I barely had time to change any water on this tank as they have only been in since Tuesday!
IT'S TRUE,WITH PICTURES( AND BS).THE FUNNY PART IS I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!
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You share credit on this one Dale! I needed a bump and you were the only to say anything.THANKS! Now just crossing our fingers on the next portion of the show.



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I wish you success!



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Very cool. Gorgeous fish BTW.

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discusautolinker.com autolinking image is one of those dream fish of mine...

i should probably stay away from them though, with my propensity for experimentation...

congrats on the spawn!

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I hope to share fry pics with everyone.If I get to I'll tell you all ;"change water"..Not much more to it(well?).



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Congrats! Never heard of a fish using a heater lol. Good thing you have anther in there. Will be awaiting fry pics. Cant wait to watch them grow up!

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discusautolinker.com autolinking image eggs 24 hours old.About 12 have turned white(a little over 10%).This happened last spawn also so no big deal.
Mom is tending them constantly.Hopefully they hatch tomorrow,late in day/evening.I'll shut filter down tomorrow,put sponges(that are in filter)back in 180 so they stay active,change at least 25% water(possibly lower the level quite a bit) which will boost wc %.Lower water also helps fry find parents.I'll pull a large sponge filter from swordtails 75g tank and give them a new one(they have aquaclear 110 also).
Started infusoria culture today(with broccoli) hope it works.I,ve read to add a very little yeast to culture,so I read a little more and possibly do that tomorrow also.
I get to send 100 or more swords to LFS Saturday so should be able to clear space if the fry(I hope I get some) can be moved in a week or so.
Should be only 1 day more ,2 at most ,and hopefully I have pics of something new to me to share.



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discusautolinker.com autolinking image eggs 24 hours old.About 12 have turned white(a little over 10%).This happened last spawn also so no big deal.
Mom is tending them constantly.Hopefully they hatch tomorrow,late in day/evening.I'll shut filter down tomorrow,put sponges(that are in filter)back in 180 so they stay active,change at least 25% water(possibly lower the level quite a bit) which will boost wc %.Lower water also helps fry find parents.I'll pull a large sponge filter from swordtails 75g tank and give them a new one(they have aquaclear 110 also).
Started infusoria culture today(with broccoli) hope it works.I,ve read to add a very little yeast to culture,so I read a little more and possibly do that tomorrow also.
I get to send 100 or more swords to LFS Saturday so should be able to clear space if the fry(I hope I get some) can be moved in a week or so.
Should be only 1 day more ,2 at most ,and hopefully I have pics of something new to me to share.
Cool, good luck, sounds like you might get a nice Christmas present

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So it seems alot more eggs turned white overnight.Only a few brown remain.Not sure if I'm off schedule,or if parents ate the good eggs leaving only the white(not good).Eitherway I shut filter down and cranked up air.
This is only their second spawn so I,m sure they're still learning(so am I).I 'll watch today and see what comes,but it does not look like a sucessful hatch this time.There were many more white eggs this time(this a.m.) so I'll check water quality and such to see since this is new set up.
Possibly cutting water with RO will be necessary to lower pH,although the kH is around 3-4.
In the 180 comunity my Bold Red Universe male pestered them and made the male very defensive/aggresive.This has been noted to encourage better parental care from a new pair,so possibly a clear divider and 2 other discusautolinker.com autolinking image could "share" the 120(original plan),and help the new pair perform better.Well it'sChristmas so I hope everyone enjoys the day,and gets or has what they wish for,I'm still very hopeful and happy.I'll test later and monitor to see if any wigglers are in there.There's always next time so no big loss, just a learning curve for fish and I.MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL!



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