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Re: New 120 Up And Running

So I mentioned that I removed the light,when I removed plants.This was in effort to allow them more peace.I lowered the water today and placed carboard on two sides of tank that don't face walls.So now they have total privacy and no outside interference or things to make them nervous.They provide me so many oppurtunities that I will not be seperating the male this time as I would really like to not have to do more than necessary for them.I would really prefer they get all chances to naturally breed,before I impose my foolish will over them.The eggs were still there this a.m.



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Thanks for the update, Bandit !


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hopefully the privacy helps. right now my wife has some wild bettas(moth brooders) that are breeding like mad, but we think one of them swallowed the eggs. if we see a pattern develop, we will probably wrap the tank as well. its too easy a fix to go without trying...

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its too easy a fix to go without trying...
Really does seem simple and plausible.Whether they're nervous or just excited sometimes they get all reved up when they see me.I really think they have personality and are excited in a good way as they don't run or hide when I change water or do maintenance.But they also must have some parental instict that makes them do what they do.
I could have pulled the eggs too many times by now and gone for the numbers ,but that's not what I'm about.Even if they never raise babies they are happy enough to lay eggs more than I would have ever imagined.
Thanks for the suggestion,I really am open to any ideas as being an individual leads to thinking linear(always where my mind goes) and any other veiw is worth trying.I appreciate everyone following this as it helps me just appreciate and enjoy these two.



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can't wait to see if the "privacy" helps the couple..... been following your effort for a while. it'll be sweet when you have fry!

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Eggs are gone.



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So they should have laid eggs by now ,but none.Possibly the end of their 15 week cycle or they're lit by the isolation.I re-installed a light and just today removed the cardboard that was installed for privacy.I think the privacy was a good idea ,but also think as many discusautolinker.com autolinking image owners have said that the fish appreciate attention.I will never be sure if they are excited to see me and looking for my attention or are stressed and nervous?I'm pretty good to my fish and feel they do appreciate personal attention(I know some fish don't).
So bummed a little(I'll get over it) that the hyatis between their breeding season seems to be here I'll let everyone know when the next set of eggs show up.
For those(like myself) "jonesing"for fish eggs and breeding attempts my Angels did in fact lay eggs today(they to have cardboard isolation in effect) in the 33 long below the discusautolinker.com autolinking image.This will be documented(I love this form for keeping track of dates and storing pics)in a angels breeding thread I'll start right now!



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I'm also bummed, Tom.

If this was the end of their breeding cycle, how much longer until the next one? Is there a cycle or does it begin again whenever..... ?

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I've read two 15 week cycles a year.They started on 12/8/12.They deserve and earned a break.Just guessing that they're in recovery mode as they were clock work and are definately off schedule now.
Check out "kio angel breeding journal" hope this ties us all over and fills the gaps!



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Got it. Thanks so much for this thread. Even though the results weren't as we all hoped, it was educational and spell-binding.

Will be intently following your next breeding journal. And the next. And.........

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I'm hoping this break,if it not just a "schedule adjustment", will help the pair mature and come back even stronger,but what do I know?
They do as they will ,I perform no magic or use any techniques not commonly published.This is a hobby and little twist and turns(besides the bad ones) are what make it so enjoyable and inspire me to create better habbitats or try better husbandry.I can't make them breed ,I can only make things as close to what they desire when they do.



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The game is on!Came home from work today(brutal) and they are either in process of laying eggs or have laid a few less than usaull.Either way I just gave the 55 a good scrubbing and massive waterchange on Sunday(I change water regulary,but this was totall tank scrubbing and 90-100% water change during the course of the day).I even scrubbed their slates and now I'm glad I have a routine of serious maintenance.I'm willing to look at the WHOLE first breeding seminar as educational for myself and fish, and if this is the beginning of a weekly cycle again ,I'm hoping for better results(from either them or me).So more info soon,yea!



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Awesome, Tom ! Will be keeping my fingers crossed that this pair has success soon !


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It appears they laid less eggs than usaull ,but are done laying eggs.Being that they adbruptly stopped in the midst of me figuring anything out,I am prepared and decided to install seperator to keep male away from eggs.It was my thought that he was the one eating the eggs so this ought to tell.
Possibly the spawning was brought on by the massive water change as not all the R.O. added was 84 degrees and cool water changes often act like cool flood water or changing seasons.
Either way making an attempt right away to change the usaull outcome,I think I'll add methylene blue this evening also.



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Sooooo..... playing the part of Mother Nature. Succussfully too.... at getting them to breed again so soon. Now time for the other Mother Nature to do her part.... with an assist from her understudy, of course. :-)

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So quick update;I seperated the male with eggcrate to 1/2 of the tank and added methylene blue after the eggs were laid.I hours after noticed 2 white eggs (no good).This is not unusaull(for me),but today(this a.m.) all eggs remain except the two bad eggs!It appears the female does indeed understand how to tend the eggs properly as all the other eggs remain a healthy golden color and she only removed the two bad ones.
I'm going to guess that it has been the male all along that got carried away either eating all the eggs or pestering the female to not remove only the bad ones.If things are going right they should hatch this evening I think.I,m not building myself up(to fall off cliff),but do think this is going to go well,so hopefully I have pics of fry on slate tonight or tomorrow a.m.
Here's pic of mom and eggs this a.m. They are on the slate to the right on the font edge.There are less than usaull but they look healthy so I'm happy!




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Exciting, Tom!

And the female discusautolinker.com autolinking image is gorgeous.

Will be waiting with extreme interest for the next update!

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i'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one.
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I'd like to thank everyone for their interest and good thoughts.And possibly just a stepping stone in the game;IT'S SHOW TIME!


The dark part in the egg mass is fry.I really couldn't even tell if the eggs were there this a.m. so I got a little flashlight(the circle of light in photos) and low and behold I see little wigglers ,wagging their tails and staying clung to the slate!
Also visable in the photo is 3 more white(no good ) eggs.That makes a true totall of only 5 eggs that went bad out of this batch(not to shabby).So I think if the fry survive and mom does her job(she seems to be doing a grade A+ job so far) ,I have about 1 week before I need to be moving the fry to a nursery tank(thinking a 10 for a week or two,but I'll research what is most appropriate soon).
Again thanks to all,and I'll try to get some better photos(documentation)of how these fry progress.
FINALLY!



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that wasn't so bad. Congrats
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