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Hi there! This is my first time on these forums so apologies if this has been posted to the wrong place!

Anyway, I'm planning on setting up a 7ft tank and would love some advice on stocking!

The tank is the LZ-2000 and is 785 litres (2029(L) x 600(W) x 850(H)mm). It has two external filters (2000EF+ External filters (2000L/H Models with 9w UV) and the glass thickness is 15mm. It will also be med - heavily planted so I need fish which won't disrupt the plants.

I've decided on going for a predatory tank, which will definitely include a Fire Eel. However, I'm unsure what else to add to the tank. I've been thinking of a Datnoid but I'm not particularly knowledgeable when it comes to them. I've also considered a Jaguar Cichlid, though I'm unsure.

Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

im not sure if your a fan but how about an oscar?they are full of personality.

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

First off, I know nothing about fire eels. If it is the Asian one - don't they get close to 3 feet long?

Jaguar Cichlids (P. managuensis) would either eat your plants, shred them, and at best only dig them up.

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I wonder if Silver Dollars are too big to be eaten by the eel? A school of those would look great in a big tank. Might make your eel come out more.

Pink tailed chalceus?
Pink tailed chalceus, Chalceus macrolepidotus Fish Profile, with care, maintenance requirements and breeding information for your tropical fish

Convicts would certainly keep your eel well fed with all their offspring.

Don't know much about any of these fish, but this is a cool video that is roughly the same size as your tank I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5W5_1ov-c

Should be a fun tank - keep us posted on what you decide!
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

Thank you very much for the feedback!

I had a look at silver dollars but they are very much herbivores so they're likely to eat all my plants.

Fire eels can grow to that in the wild but in captivity are said to only grow to about 50cm, though I've seen bigger.

As for oscars, I'm quite unsure. Wouldn't they tear up plants too? I may be wrong - I know nothing about them.

I quite like the look of the Pink tailed chalceus! Any idea if it is possible to keep more than one or are they a solitary fish? I also had a look at the Clown Knife. Would one of those be possibly suitable? I've always admired the Black Ghost Knife fish too.
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

oh i didn't know you wanted it to be planted.yeah oscars will rearrange anything they dont like i hear.so i guess that means they will also demolish your plants.a shame so full of personality.and clown knife fish,im not sure if it will get this big but they get pretty big. http://fishingthephilippines.files.w...knife-fish.jpg

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

Your going to run into the issue of compatibility issue with a predator tank. You might be able to keep multiple species you might not it all depends on the personality of the fish.I was also going to say an oscar or red tail cat fish (if you got it small and kept until it outgrew the tank) but from first hand experience having a 125g oscar tank you wouldn't be able to have any plants as they rearrange the tank they want it. I tried to aquascape my oscar tank and after about the 10th of "him" knocking everything over and moving stuff I gave up.

Not familiar with jaguar cichlids but if they are anything life african cichlids, it wouldn't work with a planted tank as they like to graze on plants and move things.

You could do a arowana or alligator gar if you got a small juvenile one, but would have to eventually get a bigger tank or give him away once he outgrows the tank. If you wanted to do one large fish you could go with a wolf fish if you get the correct genus. They do sell a genus of wolffish that stays small which I actually had until I came back from vacation and found dead is called a Hi-Fin wolffish. The only only predatory fish I can think of, but would have to go with a species only tank is a school of true piranha (not the pacu labeled as red belly piranha they sell at a majority of stores).

Here is a good site for predatory fish is AquaScapeOnline, Online fish store that sells piranhas, stingrays, cichlids, plecos, catfish and rare oddball tropical fish. this should give you some good ideas. Hope this helps!!

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

I've ran into a little problem which means I have to get rid of my current 180 litre, which has my beloved Clown Loach in it, who must be about 20 cm (yes, i know he's too large but he came with the tank without me knowing :L). He may have to go into the new tank, which means a predator tank may actually be out of the question.

Do you think it would be possibly to keep a large(?) Clown Loach with an Ornate Bichir, Fire Eel and perhaps some other community fish? Perhaps a Krib or rams or something.

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

kribs or rams will be eaten with in 5 minutes of being put in the tank.if it fits in the mouth then its food.

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

Have you considered Belonasox-Pike Livebearers? The females get up to 9", males 5" they will eat anything they can swallow and move with lightening speed when feeding. They would not harm the plants at all. If your eel is at least 6"8" it will be safe so long as you keep them all fed. If you're interested p.m. and I'll get you up to speed.
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

Thanks big b, I was thinking that but was unsure. I've got three 10cm bala sharks who will need to go in, and hopefully they'll grow out a bit in there.

And thank you, henningc, but as above I can no longer have as many predatory fish as I was hoping.
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

In the end you wanted a planted tank and most predatory tanks, at least in my tanks.... they destroy my floor plans! Plus, no matter what I do they end up being species only tanks. Or singles only tanks. I love my predators but they are hard on plants, décor and roommates!. Silver Dollars are like lawn mowers They do not just rearrange they mow them down. Is sort of fascinating to watch if you don't like your plants. Interesting ideas that were tossed out!
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would a red tail shark get eaten?their aggressive lil' suckers or how about convicts?they can be PRETTY mean?when was the 16th street baptist church bombed in Birmingham,Al?

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oh sorry yall that 16th street baptist church thing was a question for home work that i copied and pasted onto here by accident with out noticing,i hope yall have a good night's sleep that's what im gonna do right now.

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

I had a red tailed shark before and he was the most placid little sweetheart ever. He used to get trouble from the black widows! XD

I would love to get one, but there can sometimes be issues between them and bala sharks because of their similar appearance. Also, it may be too small to avoid getting eaten.
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yeah i was thinking that as i posted that.but im pretty sure if you ge=ot convicts your other fish would be scared of them,so i guess thats a no to.

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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

So .......Where are we at?
I have always had clown loaches even in my most brutal set ups!
Part of my love for them is once acclimated they are bullet proof!
I had some CL in a 135g(6') in the 80's with ;snake head,pacus(red and black) clown knife ,sting ray and arrowana(talk about over stocking?).Those fish ate 200 goldfishautolinker.com autolinking image a week and never swallowed one clown loach!
I will never get another clown knife.They get to big for common tanks.
My last clown knife was with a polyepterus.When the poly died(after many years) I could never get anothe fish in the tank with the knife(he killed ALL!).he lived his last 5-6 years alone.Not a good community canidate!The poly was a better choice and more manageable.
I like the datniods but think they a brackish?
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snake heads?did you get them on the black market? or get a permit for them or what?

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They were common in pet stores back then.This is partially how it all went bad for them and us.
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Re: Predatory tank stocking ideas?

Hi everyone! Haven't had internet for a few days so apologies for not being active. ;)

I've had a long think and have decided I'm going to scrap the idea of a planted tank. My reworking hours have been increased so I won't have as much time to care for it, and I really want to attempt a cichlid tank after a long think so planted wouldn't be an option anyway.

So, my current thoughts is to have:
1x Fire Eel
My current 3 large bala sharks plus a few more when I can get my hands on some bigger ones.
Some clown loaches
1x red spotted severum
1x Texas cichlid?

And possibly a few more suggestions?

Tank will have plenty of hiding caves and I can try to make territories in the tanks for them.

What are your thoughts?

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