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i want you to know i did exactly what you did size wise all the way down to the substrat selection , and although i was warned by these guys of the size we still tried and i killed 2 damsels and a clown fish , it was not due to any circulation nor water quality issue , but simply just way 2 little fir even the smallest fish i could find.
i do a few snails now with a bit of live rock a few hermit crabs , and about 6 nice easy low need pieces of coral , mainly Button polyps and mushrooms.
i understand the want to try it but the marine fish , even the smaller ones are so different in there needs from many FW species they really require much more tank it seems.
I hope you have good / Better luck than i did if you do go the fish rout.
Befor the clown fish went in id almost gotten a neon gobie or a clown gobie , they are both smaller creatures , but id just rather not kill another fish , iv tried and been defeated on this topic.
But i do love my little marine environment all the same , i have a Dragons eye polyp with close to 30 heads on it (my largest) it is all the time opening and closing and growing . its very nice and low maintenance , but not a busy tank like my FW aquariums in the least.
I gave some thought to removing the crabs and getting a small dwarf lobster like a
DEBELIUS' PURPLE REEF LOBSTER it is supposed to be reef safe if fed plenty and is the size of a FW cray fish.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going more the invert/corals way anyway. Might try a clown goby. My close friend has a 56 SW tank with only 2 clowns in it, so if anything I try just isn't working out, I can pass it on to her.
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I picked up a couple rocks and a couple frags from a local reefer. The rocks came with a mix of xenia, feather dusters, and a mushroom.




Can you ID this? Is this a type of mushroom?





Can you ID this? I forgot what he told me it was. Zoa?



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Nice rocks!Picture #3 actinodiscus sp.(mushroom).There are many colors.



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Thank you. And thanks, that's what i thought.

And I need to invest in a tripod, shooting pictures that close, I get it focused and it looks really good on the screen, and the slightest movement when I press the trigger makes it blurry. OR my camera just sucks, lol

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Other Id would be what looks like Trumpet Corals. Definately an LPS, thats a calcium tower its making.

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A quick google says they can be sensitive to new light and should be placed lower in the aquarium upon new arrival. Pictures suggest mine are no where near fully open. Should I do anything special for it?

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It all depends on what light they came from. If your is stronger, you need to acclimate them to your light. Start them low, and every week take em up a bit higher.

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I'm not sure if mine is stronger. The guy had it in his sump with macro-algae. I think he had T-5's over his sump.

I'll move it lower and see what happens. Thanks.

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Re: Starting a 5 gallon Marine Tank

The trumpet opened up more today. I guess it likes being lower. The arm that broke off opened up the most and I left it up high. Guess it likes the light. They are individuals i guess.

The toadstool opened up fully too. Really neat.

The mushroom is starting to attach.

I also moved my tiny frag of kenya tree so i could prop it up better.

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The kenya tree is standing up on its own now, So i guess it's starting to attach. The mushroom looks good. The toadstool has been fully opened for 2 days now. And the trumpet that I moved was really opened up when I got home yesterday. Hermits haven't bothered anything yet. They were all over the new rock checking it out they day I got it, but haven't really been near it since. When I feed they are finding plenty on the sand. Snail's just cruising around on the glass. I got a video and some better pictures to post.

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Very nice. Sounds like your on your way to a successful Reef!!!

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Re: Starting a 5 gallon Marine Tank

Update: My mushroom disappeared one night. I guess hermits are to blame.
Kenya tree exploded in size.
One xenia head isn't doing so hot. A few are doing "ok" and a few are doing really good.
The trumpet coral started opening up really wide.
I added a rock covered with yellow polyps yesterday and they all opened up within a few hours. (that bumps me up to about 7.5 pounds of LR)

I saw a bristle worm for the first time yesterday.


My questions: How much flow is too much? My xenia is right below the filter's output and I feel like it's way to much flow pushing them over. Could be the reason a few aren't doing so great. When I added the polyps yesterday you could see the flow even in a "low flow area" was incredible.

A a 50gph powerhead and a 80 gph filter for a total of 130 gph. Water capacity is ~4 gallons. So 32x circulation. Is that too much?

I put a piece of filter foam in/over the output of the filter to slow it down a little bit and i kinda helped. Now I know any extra foam like that in a SW tank becomes a nitrate farm so that is a temp. fix. I was thinking about doing the soda bottle trick so the flow would be diverted laterally across the back of the tank instead of falling right on my xenia. Sound good?

I know the "what's your calcium reading?" question is coming sooner or later. I'm in the process of getting a reef test kit. I already have the regular SW one. And on that note, Which, if any, coral supplement products do you recommend? I was looking at the Kent ones. They have smaller sized bottles available which is good. Because with a 4 gallon volume, I won't need a lot.

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First I'll say if you change water on your tank regulary you probably don't need supplements,the freshautolinker.com autolinking image saltautolinker.com autolinking image water has a traces.I use kent and have the little bottle of zomax,and chroma max.The chroma max is dosed at a rate of 1 drop per 50gallons,which could be diffacult for you.The zoo max is 5 drops per 50 gallons or 1 per 10,not so diffacult.A good zoo plankton(julian sprung two little fishes)and watching your kh,and ca(I have kent buffers for them),may be all that is necessary, with water changes.



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First I'll say if you change water on your tank regulary you probably don't need supplements,the freshautolinker.com autolinking image saltautolinker.com autolinking image water has a traces.I use kent and have the little bottle of zomax,and chroma max.The chroma max is dosed at a rate of 1 drop per 50gallons,which could be diffacult for you.The zoo max is 5 drops per 50 gallons or 1 per 10,not so diffacult.A good zoo plankton(julian sprung two little fishes)and watching your kh,and ca(I have kent buffers for them),may be all that is necessary, with water changes.
Ok. Sounds good. And the sand and crushed coral I used is supposed to have a high concentration of trace elements too.

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On further thinking I will guess you could dilute the chroma and zoo with 10x RO water to get drop dosing accurate for your tank.I also use some of these;
Tigger-Pods | Reef Nutrition - Premium Fish Feeds for Marine Ornamental Industry
I use the rotis,oyster and at least seed my saltautolinker.com autolinking image tanks with a bottle or two of the tigger pods.DT phyto plankton also is another brand I feed(I do use the julian sprung two little fish zoo plankton) with all others.I weekly or so add some SELCON to my fish food and mix a little with the other liqiud coral foods above.
The kh buffer(coral builder )has been discontinued,but there is a replacement made by Jack Kent under a different name(I'll check for it as I have not run out of coral builder yet) and I use turbo calcium and purple up for ca.
Continuum Aquatics Basis Borate Free Reef Building Buffer
The continuum is a new line by Jack Kent since he sold Kent to Central Garden who has aquired many aqaurium product lines and sucessfully MIS managed them.



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What exactly does "dosing" copepods do? It provides something living in the tank that's food for all? Any other benefits? And are they really alive in the bottle?

And anyway, I'll have to make it back down to the LFS and check out what they have. They're listed as a retailer of the tigger-pods product. And they have literally every brand of the "water care" products so i bet they have the continuum too.

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The pods IMO are the food of life for all.They are excellent food for fish and some corals along with eating detris that can accumulate in tank.Add some to filter and rest in tank and they should last(reproduce) for ever.Every reef tank should have co pods in it.
And they really are alive in bottle,as most (all of my)LFS keep them in fridge with the cap open for air.They come with a packaging date on the bottle so make sure they're less than 3 months old.You should be able to see they are alive.



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