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Jaybird5 07-19-2013 12:21 PM

Price range of making a nano reef.
Alrighty, I have never done anything saltwater related, but I think it would be very interesting. As soon as my 35g is done cycling I am putting the 10 gallon fish in the 35. So now I will have a empty 10 gallon and a 5.5 gallon. Which one should I use? The 10g has been around for a month and is cycled completely. The 5.5g is currently cycling and is not done. I am willing to get rid of all the progress I have made on one of those tanks. The big thing is will I have enough money to start and maintain these tanks. Right now I have a little more then $150. I get $50 every two weeks from cutting grass.

Time for what I need:
I know I probably will not need a protein skimmer or a filter. But right now both tanks have a top fin 10 HOB filter with carbon and a sponge. I know I will need a new hood so a versatop should work. I want corals, so I know I need a good light. The 10g has leds that came with the tank. I do not know if that is any good at all. So next should be a powerhead that is 200gph or 2 100gph for the 10g and a 100gph for the 5.5g. I have no clue what the Reverse Osmosis or RO/Deionization filter even is. Then I should need the salt and the Saltwater Hydrometer or Refractometer (which I heard are pricey). Now should be the live rock which should not be too bad as I only have 10g and 5.5g. So 10lbs or 6lbs should work. Next should be the substrate and I do not know what to use. I heard live sand is not really alive and does not put much bacteria in the water. So can pool filter sand work? Alright so what should be the cost of all of this? Any ideas?

coralbandit 07-19-2013 12:53 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
The light that came with your 10 is probly not good enough for salt.Tha's no biggy,just get replacement.(we'll find one). The ro/di is a good investment, but for the 10 you could easily buy distilled or ro from LFS and not need to invest so much.Live sand is good substrate (comes with bacteria in a packet!),or crushed coral.Pool filter sand is a no,no in salt.Where I live live rock is $8.99 a pound or $8 if you buy 10lbs.It's rock so the wieght adds up easy.Powerheads or hydors are easy to find on ebay and much cheaper over the net.
Here's a link for a refractometer,pretty cheap
RHS 10ATCC Black Salinity Refractometer Dual Scale PPT SG Replaces Hydrometer | eBay.
RM should chime in and if you haven't search his "what you might need for saltwater" sticky.
Always plenty of help here for new salt keepers(RM is the best!).

coralbandit 07-19-2013 01:07 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
20" LED Aquarium Light | eBay the first light(the evo) looks like a good led(3 watts,with actinic).
Hydor Koralia Nano Evolution 240 GPH Wavemaker Pump | eBay hydors are good circulators.I think this 240 is the smallest.

Reefing Madness 07-19-2013 02:11 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Only thing for me to add is that yiu could use a couple Maxjet powerheads in the tank instead of te bigger Hydors, not saying the Hydor is bad though.
Pretty sure we can wrangle down an LED light that's 12" with 3w LEDs for a 10g that won't break the bank. Ill throw down tonight when I'm a my computer.Or CB can hun ine up for ya, he knows what he's lookin for.
I like the Crushed Coral as its a good SW PH buffer. Othe than that CB pretty much has ya covered.
But overall, I'd say $150 isn't going to cover the start up cost.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 02:26 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Thank you so much! I have a few questions though... What about my topfin10 power filter? Does it even matter? Would it help at all? For mechanical filtration? So you would say no protein skimmer? Also should I get two small powerheads that equal my tank or just one that works?
So all I need is:
*better light
*crushed coral substrate or live sand
*power heads
*salt mix (instant ocean)
*live rock and dead rock
*Better top.
Anything else?

coralbandit 07-19-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
That's a good list to start with.You don't a protien skimmer as with only 10 g you do water changes easy enough to control nutrients.You will also need an API master reef test kit.
Beamsworks EVO 18 Aquarium LED Light 10x 3W Coral Reef Marine Planted 45 60cm | eBay
Green Element LED Light EVO Clip Clamp Hang on 3W x6 Reef Coral Planted Aquarium | eBay
Beamswork Green Element Aquarium EVO 12 3WX6 LED Light Lamp 30 45cm 11" 17" Reef | eBay
Couple other lights.Your looking for 3 watt bulbs,nothing less.
Here's the test kit API Reef Master Test Kit: Pet Supplies
There are greater choices for smaller powerheads than the hydors for sure.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 02:52 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Okay so just the reef master? No saltwater? I have the freshwater if that makes a difference.

coralbandit 07-19-2013 02:56 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
If you want corals you need the reef(has calcium test).If going fish only then the salt water kit will work.Many of the reagents for fresh and salt are the same but the color cards are a little different.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 03:01 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Well I want like a clown fish in the tank too. So I want corals and one clown fish. And would the clips work? The tank is 20x10x12 LxWxH. Just to make sure I am judgmental of the clip on.

coralbandit 07-19-2013 03:03 PM

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All the lights have right wattage and temp.The more bulbs per fixture the brighter it will be.
10G is a little tight for clowns.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 03:07 PM

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Are any fish suitable for this tank?

coralbandit 07-19-2013 03:12 PM

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Here's some ,I'm sure their are others.
Nano Fish
I have the banded goby and barnacle blennies in 29.They hide alot but are like "bullets" when I feed.

coralbandit 07-19-2013 03:26 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
This link has name of fish by size of tank in section 7(possibly other good info also).lgreen's Ultimate Guide To Nano Fish - Beginners Discussion - Forums
Go slow with plans as planning properly makes all the difference in the world!
Search nano tanks,nano tanks for saltwaterfish.....
Tons of info out there too.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 05:48 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Yeah thanks! I really want a ocellaris clown fish and maybe a goby. One of the smaller gobies like clown. Which one would you add first? I would think the goby I heard clowns are territorial.

coralbandit 07-19-2013 05:53 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
Peaceful fish first(or smaller).That way they can get the tank figured out without panicking or being chased.

Reefing Madness 07-19-2013 06:51 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
You mentioned a top in the tank. There's no reaon to keep th lid, it will more than likely give you PH problems, I'd ditch it. You don't plan on keeping anything that's a jumper, so your safe getting rid of it.

Jaybird5 07-19-2013 07:01 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
No top on a fish tank? What?!?! lol Alright that is saving me more money and that gives me more room for stuff.

Jaybird5 07-21-2013 11:53 AM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
It would help me if you could tell me what exactly to search for on ebay, so I can look for lights myself. Also I am having a hard time finding those maxi jets power heads. One says 110-500 GPH. Would this work?

coralbandit 07-21-2013 12:03 PM

Re: Price range of making a nano reef.
12"-20" marine aquarium lights on ebay(I almost always have to add "on ebay" to get there.)If looking for leds make sure you go for 3 watt bulbs and look for optics(angle light is spread).
as far as the maxi jet 110 is not crazy but if it can go up to 500 it is probly bigger(size) than you want.I'll look.

Jaybird5 07-21-2013 12:05 PM

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