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Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

I have a pair of 36" E-series lights ($559 total) for a while now one of which continues to switch on and off every 5 min due to overheating, while the other only switches on and off maybe once an hour. I'm in the process of returning both for replacements to see if they'll do any better. But whether the replacements fix the problem or not I'm now considering dropping the E-series altogether and going for a pair of Finnex Planted+ 24/7s ($240) instead.

Considering the good reviews the Finnex get it almost seems a no brainer to switch from a potentially problematic model (E-series) to the more dependable Finnex and gain just over $300 bucks back in the switch. Although the E-series came out first this model Finnex now seems to offer all the bells and whistles the Ecoxotic has...remote, customizable lighting schemes, storms with lightning, moon, high, with 24 hr timer, etc. Only difference I can see is my current E-series put out around 55 PAR at a 20" depth (my tank) vs. the Finnex only putting out 45 PAR at the same depth. Although I have a planted tank I don't have that much experience playing around with different lighting schemes and I'm not sure if this reduction in illumination is all that significant.

Would a drop of 10 PAR be a concern for you guys?

Also, if there's something I've missed in looking at these two fixtures please let me know.

What would you guys do?
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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

I drool over the finnex.

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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

Depends on the plants and the CO2 and ferts./ Many plants can adapt to slightly less light, though you will most likely have to rebalance every thing out.

I personally plan to have the 24/7s on each of my tanks :D

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If i drew it it'd look like a monkey eating a horsradish on the moon or something
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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

May I ask where you saw 45 par at 20" ?
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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

FishFlow I believe I just googled a PAR chart for the Finnex and had to extrapolate a little from there. The chart was marked off in increments of 6" so I had to do the best estimation I could, which I believe to be fairly accurate. Sorry I didn't save the link for that chart though.
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So? Did you get it? When will the pictures be up?? :D
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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

If your spending that much money you should seriously consider the kessil amazon sun. BEST LED chip on the market both freshwaterautolinker.com autolinking image and saltwaterautolinker.com autolinking image. They specially design and build the chips in house. Plus if you spend the extra $99 for the spectral controller you'll have control of time, intensity and spectrum all in one unit. Plus at full blast you'll get way more then 45-50 par, you'll be at around 200-300par on the sand bed and 800-1000par at the top of the tank. If you don't need that much, like I said the intensity is totally controllable. You could create sunrise, sunset and different intensities throughout the day with the controller.

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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

But is it automatic? Where you could turn it on and have it do the sunrise, rising intensity to a certain time, then go down, and then change to sunset, into moonlights and off?

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But is it automatic? Where you could turn it on and have it do the sunrise, rising intensity to a certain time, then go down, and then change to sunset, into moonlights and off?
All automatic after you set it! You would have to have the kessil spectral controller though. You connect the kessil up to the controller via a simple audio aux cable provided set the program which is super simple. Without the controller it wouldn't be automated, but you would still have control over the intensity and spectrum by adjusting to knobs on the unit. A person with no electronics experience could easily set up a curve. Im not sure about the moonlight honestly you would have to check. I know their tuna blue saltwaterautolinker.com autolinking image series will turn blue for a moonlight. I had their a360we tuna blues over my reef tank for a while before I upgraded from a 75 to a 125. I do have one of there a150 ocean blues which is their older smaller saltwaterautolinker.com autolinking image units over my 40g breeder anemone tank and has more then enough coverage. On top of that their new a160we's put the one I have to shame in the intensity category. They also sell a tank mount which they call there kessil gooseneck mount, super clean and very easy to adjust. Don't let the size of them fool you they put off very intense light (controllable though). The best part of them is their shimmer, you haven't seen water shimmer until you have seen one of these. Best in the LED game only rivaled by metal halides.

Also a correction, I misspoke its not the amazon sun that was the older unit the new one is called the a160we Tuna Sun and go for $239. You will not regret one of these fixtures. To top it off they hold their value very well so if you ever tear the tank down you could easily recoup a majority of the money you spent on it.

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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

I can tell you that the kessil horticulture lights are insanely good at growing plants. I have one of their h150 purples over my refugium for my cheatomorpha (macro algae) and it has the cheato growing like weeds. I also have a buddy who used it on his vegetable plants and corn plants last spring before he moved them outside. He did a comparison by making two different light set up's. One set up just a traditional bulb set up and another with the kessil h150 purple same plants under both. By time it came to move the plants outside, the plants under the kessil were 5x the size as the ones under the traditional bulb set up.

But back to the tuna sun its adjustable from 6000K-9000K. so it'll get a sky blue for your moonlight just not full actinic.

Here is a good review and little run down:

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Re: Ecoxotic E-series full spectrum LED v. Finnex Planted+ 24/7 LED

Last thing I forgot to add. Lifespan is 60,000+ hours before they MIGHT just spectrum output thats a 5+ year life. Their warranty and customer service is fantastic also. Anything ever goes wrong they will send you a new unit first and all you have to do is return it in the same box with the shipping label they provide you. I know a couple instances where people have done this.

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