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Re: Drip acclimating fish

It depends a lot on the hardness etc of the water you have in your tank compared to the water the fish were being kept in in the store. Usually we buy fish locally from stores that use the same tap water we do so it might be that the change in conditions between tanks is not significant but if the change is too great it will certainly be very stressful to the fish and possibly fatal.
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

I've used this method before (actually some random dude at the pet store told me about it while we were looking at fish). Although my bucket is huge, so I started off the drip in one of those chinese food takeout soup containers, put the fish with store water in there (makes it much easier to since you just invert and slowly remove bag), and put the container inside the bucket. I let it drip for a while, and when the small container has overflowed enough into the bucket, I carefully remove the chinese food container and continue the drip.

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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Great job of describing this method, I saw some articles on line that want you to "drip out" up to 20% of your tank water,I have a 95gallon tank, It would take me all day, I like your method best and cant wait to try it out.

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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Great description the exact method i use in fact! I do have a hint for the winter months though.

I tend to use a low tech low cost work around for the wintertime to keep the water warm while dripping. I take a large canning jar. and fill it directly from the pressure relief valve of the water heater ( usually just shy of 190F. bundle up the drip line in the hot water and back down to the bucket between the temp change of the water from the tank to the heating jug and back down again you can work out (it is a bit of a science) the temp to be just about tank water temp (unless you have a molten tank...) I can typically get the drip water just about tank temps so the scoop and drop isn't quite as dramatic for the little guys.

When you pay that cash or swipe that card you are making a bond with that animal that you will treat it with love and respect, and its needs will be met, first and foremost (unless you have kids...) I don't care if you have to eat ramen noodles or nothing at all to feed your cat dog fish rat whatever. That's the bond you made! Life is precious!
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

I have a question. I've read about both methods, drip and float, at different sites on the Internet. Most of them say not to add the water the fish came in to your aquarium. Why is that? Seems to me that the amount of water I'm adding to a large tank like my 55 gal is not going to change the parameters by very much. Also if your worried about bringing in something contagious, the new fish are going to do that anyway.

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Re: Drip acclimating fish

I would agree that it probably wont change the paramaters much... but whats in it?

Bacteria, faeces, ammonia nitrates nitrites... parasites.. gunk and crap... Even the best LFS (and very much so a petshop) will have things floating around that you dont necessarily want to have in your tank. I have been dripping and scooping for a long while and had no trouble at all! although before when i just floated and poured i often lost a handful of fish from some unknown in the water.

When you pay that cash or swipe that card you are making a bond with that animal that you will treat it with love and respect, and its needs will be met, first and foremost (unless you have kids...) I don't care if you have to eat ramen noodles or nothing at all to feed your cat dog fish rat whatever. That's the bond you made! Life is precious!
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

The slime coat on a fish gives it natural protection so it won't always be carrying parasites, fungal or bacterial infections that are in the water. Some parasites like ich have a free swimming stage when they are not attached to the fish so it is possible to infect a tank with the water from the bag even if there were no parasites on the fish. Also there could be pesky algae or unwanted snail eggs, hydra etc in the water. Most of the time it's no big deal but seeing as there is no need to add the water most people prefer not to just in case.
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Awesome idea, but if I used aged water want the temps be way different. I usually take 10% of the water and then use tap water and try match it to the tank temp as best as I can, I am new to this so any help is needed thanks.
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

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With good quality water, none of this is necessary. Ive never lost a fish (kept many tanks in the 90's, and re-started the hobby again six or so months ago) by simply floating the bag in the tank for fifteen mins, then pouring a small cup of tankwater into the bag and letting it sit for five minutes. Never lost a fish...ever.

If you're losing fish, its because you either have poor water chemistry or are buying weakened specimens. Either way, drip-acclimation is about the most painstaking, tiresome, redundant way to go about remedying the problem.
Water quality has little to do with it. It has to do with the water they came from to the water they are going in. Not dirty water.

If your method has worked for you, great! This is how to do it, not telling anyone they should do it. It is a choice.

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Water quality has everything to do with everything.

That aside, if you're worried about pH differences, which are unlikely to be dramatic anyway, why wouldnt you just ask to see what pH the fish is kept in? I really dont see, and havent seen evidence to justify, the religious devotion to Drip Acclimation (or water changes on a WEEKLY basis, for that matter --- another bonafide waste of time and money).
You are looking at drip acclimating from a negative attitude. The reason that many of us drip acclimate is to create the best possible transition from one tank to another. This is especially true if your tank is in an area like mine at home where the water is different because your lfs pays for water (through a water company) and your house has well water.

Also water changes are necessary just because nitrates are not necessary every week it is encouraged because you keep your water as clean as possible to give your fish the best possible life. Especially if you are going through a cycle and you need to keep ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates in check.

Even in a cycled tank keeping nitrates below 40ppm is extremely important.

So before you question us on our methods look at it from our perspective, we only wish to give the best life to any and all fish that we hear about and two of the best ways to do that are drip acclimation and weekly water changes.

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Water quality has everything to do with everything.

That aside, if you're worried about pH differences, which are unlikely to be dramatic anyway, why wouldnt you just ask to see what pH the fish is kept in? I really dont see, and havent seen evidence to justify, the religious devotion to Drip Acclimation (or water changes on a WEEKLY basis, for that matter --- another bonafide waste of time and money).
This is to assume your water quality is good and at least ammonia, nitrite are 0 and nitrates are under control. Like I said, water quality has little to do with it. Whatever water to "clean water" is not the key. Going from bad water quality to good water quality can have just as a negative effect as anything else.

It is ph, but it is also gh/kh, tds levels,...anything that is majorly different.

It takes 5min, if that, to set this up. Come back at the most 2hrs later and you put fish in. If it seems unnecessary to you and you've gotten away with it without having to do it...okay. What is your point?

Like I said, if your choice is not to drip then okay. Don't come in this thread and say how it doesn't make sense to you if you have a different method....noted.

Now move on. Start another thread on how drip acclimation and weekly water changes are a waste of time. You'll get a nice response.



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I have the same goals --- I personally wouldnt keep ANY kind of fish in a smaller tank than what I have now --- a 2ft, 17.5G --- and looking around at various forums, I see myself as quite a bit more humane than many.

I am all for water changes, but once a week is excessive (unless, of course, you are cruel-minded enough to maintain a 10G or under tank), and Drip Acclimation is excessive. In my considered opinion.
10 gallons is fine for quite a few fish, so don't go throwing that in someones face. Research on the fish best suited for it is necessary, but it is definetly possible and not cruel-minded.

And we have established that in your opinion you don't think drip acclimation is necessary, we get it, but I still want to do it so move on, like jr said.

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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Taking this back it's not relevant to the post. And I am truly sorry for posting it in the first place.

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I must have missed the, "No Dissenting Opinions," sticky. Is this a forum, a place of discussion, and debate, or an episode of Barney?

I have criticised the Drip Acclimation method --- not insulted someones mother.
Just so you know and maybe you haven't noticed, this is a sticky thread. These type threads, again in case you're maybe not used to forums, are usually instructional in nature.

Given that, if you have a question about it by all means ask. If you disagree with it, just say so and move on. It is not the place to go back and forth over what your personal beliefs are. The thread was placed here to show how to do it, that's it.

Drip acclimation is probably one of the most recognized methods for preparing fish for a new tank. If you don't believe that, use google to confirm if you like.

If you would like to say more about how you don't agree, please do start another thread and fire away. Just not here.



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Re: Drip acclimating fish

I have easy access to the drip-rate controllers / stop cocks / thumb-rollers that make it child's play to dial in however fast you'd like the water to flow through your tubing. I'd be happy to pop one in an envelope for any interested fellow hobbyists, no charge; shoot me an email at my username at yahoo. If it's ok with you I'll prob just send a whole IV tubing set, which will be everything you need do to this except the bucket and towel.
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Thanks for the great write up!
I have one problem using your method, well actually 3, 3 cats that would be in that bucket snacking on whatevers inside.
What are the little plastic tubs that hang on the inside of the tank called, I'll probably use that method to acclimate them with tank water but I've brain cramped and can't think of what those units are called for googling purposes.

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Amazon.com: TOM Aquarium Accessories Dip & Pour Multi-Purpose Container, Large: Pet Supplies

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I put a towel over bucket to keep dogs and cats out and give fish peace.Cats have tried to get on top of towel a couple times.
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

Thanks jrman83 i have 10 neons & 5 guppies just got back from pet smart trying your system now. Liked the way you showed how to acclimate fish with pictures it is a big help to me. The people at the fish store said the water in my county is bad for fish and drinking to buy a RO for my tank. i don't no what RO is but will check in to it. Jim
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Re: Drip acclimating fish

i would like to add to this thread that a hang on back breeder box makes an excellent "bucket" to drip acclimate your fish. they usually come with a lid that prevents fish from jumping out, which would also prevent cats from messing with the fish. they are usually air powered, with a valve to control flow, so you can control the rate at which it mixes the tank water with the water your fish traveled in. the only downside is that it pours the water back into your tank, but if you set it up empty and keep an eye on it, you can catch it before it fills up. that way you can dump the water into a bucket or something and either scoop the fish out or allow it more time to drip acclimate. of course, you could just leave it there if you have it set up on a quarantine tank...

so far as the merits of drip acclimation, i personally believe its greatest use is for acclimating the fish to the temperature of your tank. i have often collected fish from very cold water, or received fish in the mail that were shipped during cool weather, and if i were to float them, the fish would die of thermal shock. drip acclimating them avoids this problem.

if you have ever caught a wild darter during cold weather and tried to float it in a warm tank, you know how quickly a fish can succumb to thermal shock...

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Re: Drip acclimating fish

This is a system pretty much any enthusiast does; in one form or another. It is a perfect method for creating a smooth transition for new fish or adding old fish to a new tank or new environ. I usually go a little more hardcore and pour some in along with good old tetra dechlorinator plus just in case...a lil bit mind you though.

I hate to see any fish suffer so I do as much as possible to make them comfortable...and get even more stressed than the fish when they appear uncomfortable or will be.
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