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oh, and the layal pump, did come attached to tubing with what they were labelling as a filter with what looks like stones in the base , with a blue sponge on top, looks a bit like a rocket shape with the bubbles coming out of the top...is this actually a filter as the man in the pet shop said he didn't think so and sold me a fluval one for 15 instead?
It sounds like you have an added 'box filter' so yes it is a filter, but for the purpose you want it for it is definitely not enough filtration, i would keep it attached to the airpump and running in the tank along with the fluval though as it is added filtration, they are not really that effective for fish but are more ideal for things like shrimp or snails

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Bolram is right...sounds like an air-driven box filter. VERY inadaquate...barely better than nothing at all. Very outdated technology. I suspect the manufacturer threw it in so they could say "complete, filter included!" on the box. Well, there are filters, and there are filters...

Any test results yet? Are you keeping up with water changes every day? How is the fish looking? Is he still in the 11 litre, or did he get moved up?
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hi, sadly the little fishy didn't make it. he was in the larger tank, and i tried putting in an aeration pump as well as the filter system as the lady in the pet shop suggested not enough oxygen was in there. i kept up the water changes and put a tiny amount of tonic saltautolinker.com autolinking image in under the recommendation once again of the pet shop, but he was so poorly he didn't make it. the pet shop didn't have a complete testing kit just lots of different little ones to test everything individually at 10 each, and the one i ordered online will no doubt ironically turn up today as Royal Mail are sooo slooooww!!
i am very thankful for all the help you have given me on this site, it has been super.i think however i will stick to what i know about from now on though, and we will give the fishies a miss, and just have frogs from now on...thanks again for all your help...if i do embark on another fishy adventure, i will be back for help BEFORE adding any fish to my tank xxx
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Oh no that is not good news. Sorry to hear he didnt make it. If you do ever need some help be sure to ask

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hiya, as predicted the test set turned up today..just out of curiosity i did a test on the tank (2 hrs after i turned everything off, so i don't know how much that affects it?) but these were the results it came up with...there was no ammonia test in there which i didn't relaise, so i have ordered one of those today for future use when setting up my 65 litre tank which arrived today....anyhow...these are the numbers...tey probably mean a lot more to you than me..NO3=10.25 , NO2=1, GH= 16, KH =6, PH=7.6, CL=0
?? from what i could tell reading through the leaflet etc, it didn't "seem" to bad, but obviously i don't have an ammonia result which probably was the critical one...?
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A good reading would should 0 0 <20 or there abouts that being ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. As long as ammonia and nitrites stay low preferably 0 then it is perfect conditions for fish (if they rise then you know its water change time) Also as it was newly setup the tank would be cycling meaning all your readings are higher than they normally would be. Once the filter has established and bacteria colonies built then everything balances out and your tank is cycled (takes around 4 weeks for a cycle to happen at least)

Some fish withstand the cycling levels, guppies are great cycling fish as they can be hardy, also zebra danios.

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yes, i ggogled the danios and i quite like them...i will start all over again, and in a good few weeks i will have a look in the aquarium shop to see what they have available..i may well pester you again soon!! thanks again
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Im pleased to see you are not going to give up so easily

Also look into white cloud minnows i think they look cool (thy are also pretty hardy fish) if you have a pets at home near you i know they tend to stock them

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yes, i will do...i'm cleaning out the tanks at the moment. i'm concerned about making sure none of the white spot disease stays on anything. i googled cleaning after white spot and one person said really hot water on everything, i don't hink i can use a detergant can i? another said to use the tonic salts to clean, so currently i have everything that was connected to the fish soaking in a bowl which had boiling hot water and a teaspoon of saltautolinker.com autolinking image it in...i will obviously rinse it all really well etc..is there anything else i should do now before setting the tanks up. the 65 litre one i haven't salted as it never came into contact with the fish. any suggestions?
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You are doing pretty much everything you need to. Just fill the tank up with warm water and add the saltautolinker.com autolinking image and leave to stand for a couple of days then rinse out thoroughly. I wouldnt use any household detergents or bleach (although it has been known for people to use them effectively but i wouldnt risk it lol)

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