Now that my 27g tank is setup, I have added my first occupants, which were kindly given to me for free by a friend.


2 Angel fish. Not sure of the specific species, maybe someone can clarify that for me. I like them, they're fairly small, and love to hog the camera!


3 Guppies. 2 Females, 1 Male. I expect them to breed like wildfire.


I'm really not sure what these are, but I have 2 of them. My friend says that these breed like Guppies too.

Thats all I have so far. My first purchase, will most likely be a Betta of some form or another, probably a male and a female. If the male hassles the Guppies, I'll take the Guppies to the LFS and trade them.
I'll be getting some bottom dwellers too. 2 Corys, 2 Plecs, and possibly a couple of Shrimp.
I also love the red tailed sharks, so I will definately be getting one of those too.

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Two angelfish in a 27g may be too much. The guppies WILL breed like mad, as will any other livebearer BUT the angelfish will eat the fry. And i would not add both a male and female betta. One or the other but not both

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the angel are very small. probably about an inch in height. I will most likely just get a male betta for now, but I plan on breeding them in future, so I will most likely buy a smaller tank for them. I have decided to give the guppies to a friend who has an all guppie wall tank. This will avoid any conflict between the male guppies and the male betta.

Heres the general look of my tank so far. Im getting some java moss to attach to the bogwood today.

I realize the angels are small now, but they will grow and need a lot of space. If they would both be males they will then fight and possibly hurt or kill each other. I have 7 juvie angels in my 75g tank right now, and when they are full grown there is a very realistic possibility of having to rehome 3, due to space constraints and fighting issues.

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well they are both over a year old now, they've been this size for many months now, my friend gave them to me because she believe they were picking on her guppies. turns out it was her ruby sharks.

newest additions:

2 spotted plecs


2 albino corys

I think they should be bigger than that at a year old...and if i'm being completely honest, they do not look to be in that great of shape.

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The juvie angles I have now, are only maybe 3 months old and are almost as big as yours. Something is not right there.

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Those angels look pretty stunted to me.Also the scales of the first seem to be sticking out?

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one of them is in pretty bad nick yeah, thats why I have them now. They were among the fish that were being picked on by the ruby sharks my friend had. She was going to flush them, and I couldn't allow her to do that.

They are definately around a year old now. They've been that size for at least 3 months now.

I dunno why, but I love them, and that is very strange because im not particularly fond of angel fish... not the big silver ones anyway, but these little black ones, I love em!

I hope you are able to nurse them back, they would be very beautiful at the right size. If they do start growing again (which i hope they do) they will outgrow your tank. If they dont, they are stunted and will eventually die because of it.

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well all I can do is watch them, and feed them, if they do grow big, I will most likely have to take them to my LFS and trade them for something else, which would be a shame really because I really quite like them.

What do you mean by stunted? is there a reason why this could happen?

yes, whatever tank they were kept in prior to you getting them was too small. They only grew in accordance to the space they were alotted, which is a deadly thing for a fish as their organs will continue to grow even though their skeletons have stopped.

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they were kept in a 10g orb tank. Far too small, I know. She has a 27g like mine, but it has 2 fully grown silver angels, which frequently breed in it, so they would most likely kill the black ones.

I've just attached some java moss to the bogwood in my tank, but in the past 2 hours or so, i've noticed the water has become quite cloudy. Is it just disturbed sand (its very fine) or could something else cause it?

They are most def. stunted then, a 10 gal isnt appropriate for even 1/2 and angel lol. Is your tank cycled?

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im not too sure, I don't have a testing kit to find out (short on cash)
I'll see what its like tomorrow, and if it looks any worse, I'll try and get a testing kit and find out what the ammonia/nitrite levels are like

well wait, has teh tank been set up for a while or did you set it up and put fish in immediately? If you did that, then it's not cycled and you are goin to need frequent water changes to avoid huge ammonia spikes

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the tank has been running for about a week before I put any fish in it.

I think I did 2 50% water changes in that time.

Your tank is going through its cycle right now. Even though you ran the tank for a week before you put anything in it does not mean that there was any source of ammonia to start the cycle. Now that you have fish in the tank you will start to see ammonia and nitrite spikes and water changes will be necessary to keep the fish alive.

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well, the tank has had fish in it for about 2 days now. When do you think I should do a water change, and how much?