Aquarium Forum
Advertise
New To The Saltwater Aquarium Hobby This forum is a friendly place for all the people that are new to the saltwater hobby to post their questions. This section makes it quick and easy to find useful information for beginners and get answers to your questions.

Go Back   Aquarium Forum Saltwater and Reefs New To The Saltwater Aquarium Hobby

Forgot Password?
Connect with Facebook

Welcome to the Aquarium Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Connect with Facebook
OR

Members currently in the chatroom: 1
The most chatters online in one day was 16, 03-02-2012.
TaylorM237

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-30-2011, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
Frank1971
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 131
Name: Frank1971
Location: Utah
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 189 Times
Was Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

My 55 gallon tank which I started 6 weeks ago has had a major spike in algae growth over the past two weeks. Now, what I initially started as a FOWLR tank I am now slowly converting into a reef, so lighting is something that I am making sure my small corals get enough of. So my question is, how do I cut down on the algae growth while still giving my corals enough light so they will continue to grow. I have a small clean up crew in there that consists of 6 hermit crabs, 2 Turbo Snails, 1 Cleaner Shrimp and 1 Sand Sifting Star Fish. It appears that between the crabs and the snails, that they are keeping the live rock fairly clean, but the decorative items and the glass is particularly slimmed with algae in the area where direct sunlight hits the tank. I also have a Yellow Tang in there that I'm sure is helping in cleaning some of it off as well. But, it appears that my turbo snails are committed to hanging out on the rocks and are avoiding the rest of the tank at all cost. So, do I increase the size of my clean up crew? Or do I just need to clean my glass and ornaments by hand? What's an ideal number of turbo snails to have in a 55 gallon reef? And are there any other members of the clean up crew that I am missing?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
__________________
55 Gallon Marine FOWLR Tank ( Yellow Tang, Flame Back Angel, Tomatoe Clown, Diamond Goby, 6 Line Wrasse, 4 Stripe Damsel, Blue Damsel, Kupang Damsel, Yellow Damsel and 3 Blue/Green Chromis)
Frank1971 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Frank1971

Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free!

Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

AquariumForum.com is owned and operated by fellow lifelong aquarium enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join AquariumForum.com Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 11-30-2011, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
TypeYourTextHere's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 563
Location: Olathe, KS
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 23 Times
Was Thanked 149 Times in 146 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

As far as the glass is concerned I just use a Mag-Float to scrape off the glass. I have a FW tank so I don't know about other stock options you could use.
__________________
75 Gallon Planted
TypeYourTextHere is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To TypeYourTextHere
Said thanks:
Old 11-30-2011, 05:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
240g Mixed Reef
Reefing Madness's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,663
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 1,392 Times
Said "Thanks" 39 Times
Was Thanked 946 Times in 923 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank1971 View Post
My 55 gallon tank which I started 6 weeks ago has had a major spike in algae growth over the past two weeks. Now, what I initially started as a FOWLR tank I am now slowly converting into a reef, so lighting is something that I am making sure my small corals get enough of. So my question is, how do I cut down on the algae growth while still giving my corals enough light so they will continue to grow. I have a small clean up crew in there that consists of 6 hermit crabs, 2 Turbo Snails, 1 Cleaner Shrimp and 1 Sand Sifting Star Fish. It appears that between the crabs and the snails, that they are keeping the live rock fairly clean, but the decorative items and the glass is particularly slimmed with algae in the area where direct sunlight hits the tank. I also have a Yellow Tang in there that I'm sure is helping in cleaning some of it off as well. But, it appears that my turbo snails are committed to hanging out on the rocks and are avoiding the rest of the tank at all cost. So, do I increase the size of my clean up crew? Or do I just need to clean my glass and ornaments by hand? What's an ideal number of turbo snails to have in a 55 gallon reef? And are there any other members of the clean up crew that I am missing?

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Gotta clean the glass and ornaments yourself. 10 Turbo Snails would fit ya good. Some Bumble Bee Snails, a few Nass Snails. Mix em up some. What kind of lights are you using? Only out of date lamps will cause you more problems in the algae department. Phosphates will cause you issues.
Reefing Madness is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Reefing Madness
Said thanks:
Old 11-30-2011, 05:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 45
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

I would just clean the glass by hand with a scraper and the leave the decorative items to be cleaned as there no point taking them out and in as the algae will prob just come back on them anyway that is unless it is caked with the stuff.

The sunlight hitting the tank will more than likely be causing some algae, I'm taking it you have the proper lighting in the tank T5, Hallide or LED, so my first step would be to check for nitrate and phosphate to see how that stands.

As for your Clean up Crew I would beef that up a bit, you have 6 Crabs along with a Cleaner Shrimp and a SS Starfish which is good but they aren't going to clean the glass, Get more snails I would pick Mexican Turbo Snails if you can get them other than that just get more Turbo's. The Mexican Snails will also eat Red Slime Algae if that comes which is good as most Clean up Crew won't touch that, For fish that eat Algae I find the Foxface is best it's a beatifull fish and will graze on the algae like a Cow with grass.

Your tank is also only 6 weeks old so I wouldn't worry to much at the moment unless it starts going out off control you tank hasn't even matured yet you will prob start to get a brown Algae bloom soon also, you tank will have just cycled so you may find you have Nitrate at present
Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Ranger
Said thanks:
Old 11-30-2011, 05:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Frank1971
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 131
Name: Frank1971
Location: Utah
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 189 Times
Was Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
Gotta clean the glass and ornaments yourself. 10 Turbo Snails would fit ya good. Some Bumble Bee Snails, a few Nass Snails. Mix em up some. What kind of lights are you using? Only out of date lamps will cause you more problems in the algae department. Phosphates will cause you issues.
I'm using a GE Wide Spectrum Florescent for Plant and Aquarium. Got to check the phosphate. I'll definitely add a few more snails, wasn't sure how many was too many.

What is an out of date lamp? I've read others that have said the same thing.

Thanks
__________________
55 Gallon Marine FOWLR Tank ( Yellow Tang, Flame Back Angel, Tomatoe Clown, Diamond Goby, 6 Line Wrasse, 4 Stripe Damsel, Blue Damsel, Kupang Damsel, Yellow Damsel and 3 Blue/Green Chromis)
Frank1971 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Frank1971
Sponsors

Old 11-30-2011, 07:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
sion342's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 199
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 683 Times
Said "Thanks" 66 Times
Was Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts
Talking Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Well, to me I have the best for Algae . Name Chinese Algae Eater, but they will grow ,so some tell me they become destructive when are 4" to 5" and could grow to 12". At the moment I'm still using them cause they do work very good. I got 2 and use them in my three tanks so far they are really amazing eating all algae, so I bought them some wafflers
__________________
55 Gals. Plants Anubias,Amazon Swords and more. Tetras: 6 Sarpaes.4 Red Eyes,5 Black Skirts,4 Giant Danios,2 Lemons, 2 Emerald Cory,4 German Blue.
10 gals. tank : Plants, Full of Guppies; 20 Gals. Tank planted Full of Guppies: 1 gal tank filled with Guppies

Last edited by sion342 : 11-30-2011 at 07:21 PM. Reason: Forget something
sion342 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To sion342
Old 11-30-2011, 08:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
240g Mixed Reef
Reefing Madness's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,663
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 1,392 Times
Said "Thanks" 39 Times
Was Thanked 946 Times in 923 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank1971 View Post
I'm using a GE Wide Spectrum Florescent for Plant and Aquarium. Got to check the phosphate. I'll definitely add a few more snails, wasn't sure how many was too many.

What is an out of date lamp? I've read others that have said the same thing.

Thanks
Flourescent lighting usually starts to lose its life around 6-9 months. Try getting a couple of 10k or 12k flourescent lights, much better for your tank.
Reefing Madness is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Reefing Madness
Said thanks:
Old 12-01-2011, 12:45 AM   #8 (permalink)
John
John_Mel's Avatar
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 9
Name: John_Mel
Location: Mangawhai, New Zealand
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 11 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Hi I'm new here, but I read a blog about a similar problem just a few days ago which you might find useful.

Here is the link:

Preventing Algae Saltwater Aquarium Advice Blog
John_Mel is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To John_Mel
Old 12-01-2011, 10:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
Frank1971
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 131
Name: Frank1971
Location: Utah
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 189 Times
Was Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Hey thanks everyone for all the great advice. I added a few more Turbo Snails and they're starting to take care of my algae problem. Little suckers eat all day long! LOL!
__________________
55 Gallon Marine FOWLR Tank ( Yellow Tang, Flame Back Angel, Tomatoe Clown, Diamond Goby, 6 Line Wrasse, 4 Stripe Damsel, Blue Damsel, Kupang Damsel, Yellow Damsel and 3 Blue/Green Chromis)
Frank1971 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Frank1971
Old 12-02-2011, 09:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
joe2011's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 203
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 619 Times
Said "Thanks" 9 Times
Was Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

yeah they do they had my tank cleaned up in about a week or so .i didn't know they moved that fast .when you think of Snails you think slow moving lol
__________________
if you loan some one money an never see them Again it was money well spent !!!!!
joe2011 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To joe2011
Old 12-03-2011, 09:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 45
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

If my memory serves me correct the problem with chinese algae eaters is they will start to pick away at the rest of your fish when they get bigger.
Ranger is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Ranger
Old 12-08-2011, 10:32 PM   #12 (permalink)
ValorieMackison's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Louisville, KY
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 111 Times
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

On the subject of chinese algae eaters, I've had 1. Never again. Damn thing was fine, albeit a bit spastic, till it reached 5"-6", then it took out everything else in the tank. Took me a while to realize it. I sat still one night after lights out & watched as it attached itself to the side of a tank mate (to suck the slime coat I assume). He went back to the LFS. o.O
__________________
-Never put a Chinese Algae Eater in a Guppy tank unless you enjoy vacuuming little corpses out of the substrate.-

55 Gallon/brackish (1.009)-
1 dragon goby
5 black mollies
4 bumblebee gobies
14 ghost shrimp
2 snails of unknown species

20 Gallon/freshwater/planted-
3 zebra danios
2 snail of unknown species

10 Gallon/freshwater-
currently fishless
ValorieMackison is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To ValorieMackison
Old 12-09-2011, 10:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Quote:
Originally Posted by ValorieMackison View Post
On the subject of chinese algae eaters, I've had 1. Never again. Damn thing was fine, albeit a bit spastic, till it reached 5"-6", then it took out everything else in the tank. Took me a while to realize it. I sat still one night after lights out & watched as it attached itself to the side of a tank mate (to suck the slime coat I assume). He went back to the LFS. o.O

aren't chinese algae eaters a freshwater fish? Didn't know they could be used in this marine tank.


my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 12-09-2011, 12:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
ValorieMackison's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 109
Location: Louisville, KY
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 111 Times
Said "Thanks" 6 Times
Was Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Yes they are, sorry. I shared my .02 because someone above brought them up.
__________________
-Never put a Chinese Algae Eater in a Guppy tank unless you enjoy vacuuming little corpses out of the substrate.-

55 Gallon/brackish (1.009)-
1 dragon goby
5 black mollies
4 bumblebee gobies
14 ghost shrimp
2 snails of unknown species

20 Gallon/freshwater/planted-
3 zebra danios
2 snail of unknown species

10 Gallon/freshwater-
currently fishless
ValorieMackison is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To ValorieMackison
Old 12-09-2011, 03:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
sion342's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 199
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 683 Times
Said "Thanks" 66 Times
Was Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Quote:
Originally Posted by beaslbob View Post
aren't chinese algae eaters a freshwater fish? Didn't know they could be used in this marine tank.


my .02

Yes they are fresh water fish. My bad I didn't read very well the 1st post.
__________________
55 Gals. Plants Anubias,Amazon Swords and more. Tetras: 6 Sarpaes.4 Red Eyes,5 Black Skirts,4 Giant Danios,2 Lemons, 2 Emerald Cory,4 German Blue.
10 gals. tank : Plants, Full of Guppies; 20 Gals. Tank planted Full of Guppies: 1 gal tank filled with Guppies
sion342 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To sion342
Old 12-09-2011, 05:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
archer772's Avatar
Welcome Wagon Aquarium Forum Tank Of The Month Winner
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 943
Name: Scott
Location: Michigan
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 273 Times
Said "Thanks" 15 Times
Was Thanked 261 Times in 250 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Well 1 standard flouresent tube will not be enough light no matter what bulb you use so if you want a reef tank you really should be useing T-5's, MH's or maybe try LED's. What is your filtration, flow and are you useing RO/DI water or just tap water??
archer772 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To archer772

Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free!

Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

AquariumForum.com is owned and operated by fellow lifelong aquarium enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join AquariumForum.com Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 12-21-2011, 08:56 PM   #17 (permalink)
Aquatic Digest
AquaticDigest's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 7
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Help: Algae Growth Starting To Take Over

Routine aquarium maintenance is your best defense against algae.

Here is a helpful link about saltwater aquarium maintenance.
_____________
Aquatic Digest
Aquatic Digest - The Best Reference on the Web for Aquariums and Ponds Aquatic Digest
__________________
Aquatic Digest
www.aquaticdigest.com
AquaticDigest is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To AquaticDigest
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:14 PM.





Fish Topsites
Follow us on Twitter!
Alltop, confirmation that we kick ass

All content Copyright © AquariumForum.com & the respective author. All Rights Reserved.
Disclaimer: We are not responsible for the content of any post or thread. This is a public forum and the content posted does not reflect the opinions of nor are endorsed by AquariumForum.com nor any of our employees.