Aquarium Forum
Advertise
New To The Freshwater Aquarium Hobby This forum is a friendly place for all the people that are new to the freshwater hobby to post their questions. This section makes it quick and easy to find useful information for beginners and get answers to your questions. Please don't be shy and post a thread with your thoughts. Our friendly community will promptly reply and give you advice, and if you have your setting enabled, you'll get an email when someone responds to your thread. Click the link to get started.

Go Back   Aquarium Forum General Freshwater Aquarium Topics New To The Freshwater Aquarium Hobby

Forgot Password?
Connect with Facebook

Welcome to the Aquarium Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Connect with Facebook
OR

Members currently in the chatroom: 7
The most chatters online in one day was 16, 03-02-2012.
CrazyMFFM, whitetiger61, clep.berry, TaylorM237, Kehy, Chris85, Euruproctos

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-31-2012, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 15
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Angry Walmart Gravel... ARG!

I changed my gravel in my tank to a new color and unfortunately thought I would give the gravel that walmart sells a try because it was cheaper. I rinsed it out until I thought it was running clear, then added it to my tank, then added my water. Now it's all cloudy. After a couple days it clears up, but if I stick my hand in it to put in a plant or decoration it stirs up all the dust and makes it cloudy again... Also, if I move my filter at all, it spits a cloud of dust back into the water.

Any handy ways to get the "dust" out, or is it something I'll just have to deal with until I change the water out enough to get it all out, or change filters until it catches it all? It's a new tank that I've just barely started cycling, so no big deal if I have to start over...

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Mark
mtbiker is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mtbiker

Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free!

Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

AquariumForum.com is owned and operated by fellow lifelong aquarium enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join AquariumForum.com Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 01-31-2012, 04:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbiker View Post
I changed my gravel in my tank to a new color and unfortunately thought I would give the gravel that walmart sells a try because it was cheaper. I rinsed it out until I thought it was running clear, then added it to my tank, then added my water. Now it's all cloudy. After a couple days it clears up, but if I stick my hand in it to put in a plant or decoration it stirs up all the dust and makes it cloudy again... Also, if I move my filter at all, it spits a cloud of dust back into the water.

Any handy ways to get the "dust" out, or is it something I'll just have to deal with until I change the water out enough to get it all out, or change filters until it catches it all? It's a new tank that I've just barely started cycling, so no big deal if I have to start over...

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Mark
sounds to me like you are on your way to cleaning it all up. It can take time though.

Actually I use peat moss/play sand/ and pc select in planted tanks with no filters or circulation. So I can't help because my tanks just stay clear.


my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 02-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 15
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by beaslbob View Post
sounds to me like you are on your way to cleaning it all up. It can take time though.

Actually I use peat moss/play sand/ and pc select in planted tanks with no filters or circulation. So I can't help because my tanks just stay clear.


my .02
Thanks for your input. I've been reading some of your posts and you've got me talked into going in that direction, no filter or circulation, and using a better substrate that just the gravel. I didn't do that in this tank because I didn't read about it until it was all ready all in the tank.

I'm trying to talk my wife into letting me get a 20Gal tank in addition to this 10gal tank that's actually my son's tank. She'll slowly come around.

Here's a pic of my tank as it sits today. It's got a red plady and a blue "mickey mouse" plady in it, and I can't remember the names of the plants, but so far so good. Coming up on a week so we'll see.

mtbiker is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mtbiker
Old 02-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Thanks

And your tank looks pretty good also.
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Said thanks:
Old 02-01-2012, 09:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 371
Location: California
Feedback: 4 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 5 Times
Was Thanked 57 Times in 55 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Sounds like your filter is doing it's job. Just so much gunk in that gravel, it's taxing it limits. Clean out the filter.

Surprised that the gravel is still that dirty after rinsing. May be indicative of the qty of the gravel.
__________________
100 Dirt + Stuff. To be Angel baby tank.
37 Planted. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f45/pla...nal-20774.html
29 Tall community tank. 5+ Years up and running.
15 Soon to be RCS tank.
FishFlow is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To FishFlow
Sponsors

Old 02-01-2012, 09:46 AM   #6 (permalink)
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 15
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Thanks! It cleared up a bunch yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I got home.
mtbiker is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mtbiker
Old 02-01-2012, 10:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
....has no life....
jrman83's Avatar
Welcome Wagon Aquarium Forum Tank Of The Month Winner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,468
Name: Ben
Location: White Plains, MD
Feedback: 16 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 3,396 Times
Said "Thanks" 478 Times
Was Thanked 2,431 Times in 2,286 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

No filter, no circulation would just mean that stuff would have settled to the bottom, instead of the filter slowly getting it out. Nearly everything requires rinsing, and then more rinsing. The only thing I know of that doesn't require it is Eco-complete (planted substrate).
jrman83 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To jrman83
Old 02-01-2012, 10:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbiker View Post
Thanks! It cleared up a bunch yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised when I got home.
Isn't that amazing. And very rewarding also.

my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 02-01-2012, 04:40 PM   #9 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 809
Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 144 Times
Said "Thanks" 108 Times
Was Thanked 369 Times in 327 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

A trick I've used is removing the filter media and using pillow batting (cheap at any fabric place), removing it until the water clears.
I use sand a lot, and no matter how you rinse, sand and peat both cloud you up a lot.
If you do decide to go filter-free, remember to choose fish that don't need a heater and have low oxygen needs. I've already expressed my opinion of beaslbob's 'system', a variation on the one which most aquarists used before power filters were available (and which I tried and tossed out as inefficient years ago). If you want to try it, do so by all means, but plan for the fish you choose, in their interests.
navigator black is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To navigator black
Old 02-01-2012, 07:10 PM   #10 (permalink)
That guy....
ZachZaf's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 197
Name: Zach
Location: Coralville, Iowa
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 31 Times
Was Thanked 29 Times in 28 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by navigator black View Post
A trick I've used is removing the filter media and using pillow batting (cheap at any fabric place), removing it until the water clears.
I use sand a lot, and no matter how you rinse, sand and peat both cloud you up a lot.
The last tank i did i used black 'sand' from a pet store... that was a HUGE MISTAKE, after rinsing like mad, i went ahead and added it to about an inch of water, and the entire tank wound up black... the filter was ruined... guh...

The real comment though is this, when i use actual sand i replace the filter with three coffee filters for the first night, and the cloudy is usually gone.. plus a bag of play sand is so cheap... its just not worth buying anything else!
__________________
When you pay that cash or swipe that card you are making a bond with that animal that you will treat it with love and respect, and its needs will be met, first and foremost (unless you have kids...) I don't care if you have to eat ramen noodles or nothing at all to feed your cat dog fish rat whatever. That's the bond you made! Life is precious!
ZachZaf is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To ZachZaf
Old 02-01-2012, 07:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 435
Location: springville ny
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 109 Times
Said "Thanks" 40 Times
Was Thanked 123 Times in 115 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

I replaced my gravel about 2 years ago and rinsed the heck out of it I thought, ended up with Blue floating dust for a while and replaced filter media every week, finally cleared up after a month or so. I've heard play sand is to fine a grain and can get sucked up in the filter and damage the pump, it also gets pretty compacted after a while, just what I've heard though. My next build I'm gonna try pool filter sand or safe-t-sorb.
__________________
90 gallon, 1 Iridescent shark, 2 Pleco, 3 Goldfish, 5 Cory cats, 2 Nerite snails
5 gallon hex, Blue Crowntail Betta, 1 nerite snail,

hanky is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To hanky
Old 02-01-2012, 08:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
master of the mini-tank
Kehy's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,201
Name: Kehy
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Feedback: 4 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 374 Times
Said "Thanks" 84 Times
Was Thanked 336 Times in 326 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

I'm using just straight dirt from the yard in one of my mini tanks. Everything's quite happy with it, and it cleared up in just 3 days. Of course I only have plants and a couple snails in it, with no filtration stirring it up XD
__________________
Adopt one today!

Lead me not to temptation...I can make it there myself just fine, thank you
Kehy is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Kehy
Old 02-02-2012, 10:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: Walmart Gravel... ARG!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kehy View Post
I'm using just straight dirt from the yard in one of my mini tanks. Everything's quite happy with it, and it cleared up in just 3 days. Of course I only have plants and a couple snails in it, with no filtration stirring it up XD
That agrees with my experience as well. Things really cloudy then a couple of days later all cleared up.

One reason I do the layering is just to prevent that initial cloudiness. and also planting before filling the tank as well. But even if you just throw it together, it clears up in a couple of days.

thanks and keep us posted

my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Reply

Previous Thread: Over night nitrite...
Next Thread: something with color...


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 PM.





Fish Topsites
Follow us on Twitter!
Alltop, confirmation that we kick ass

All content Copyright © AquariumForum.com & the respective author. All Rights Reserved.
Disclaimer: We are not responsible for the content of any post or thread. This is a public forum and the content posted does not reflect the opinions of nor are endorsed by AquariumForum.com nor any of our employees.