Simple question

DotFrog · 01-24-2012, 07:41 PM

What fish should I get for my 20 gallon?
I have the 3 kuhli loaches, the gold barb and 2 cherry barbs. I will rehome the zebra loach, and get 1 or 2 more cherry barbs. Idk about the Cory though. Throw me some sudgestions so I don't screw up again.
Thank you!!!!!!!

Gizmo · 01-25-2012, 10:15 AM

I think you might be maxed out on fish, but that's just me hypothesizing. Your proposed swap sounds good.

DotFrog · 01-25-2012, 03:10 PM

I really want a sort of big fish that will be very active on his own and swim around the tank. I may rehome the cory and have 3 cherries and the gold barb who happily swims with them and my other fish.

congar15 · 01-25-2012, 03:47 PM

A betta maybe? Would look nice and would be with shy fish.

DotFrog · 01-25-2012, 04:29 PM

Good idea! Any other little centerpeices?

Cadiedid · 01-26-2012, 09:47 AM

I could be wrong but I don't think a betta can go in with those barbs....

congar15 · 01-26-2012, 02:30 PM

Your tank is a 20g right? If so a betta should have room to coexist with barbs.

holly12 · 01-26-2012, 08:19 PM

With 3 Kuhli's and then your barbs, you could add 3 more cherry barbs and 4 more golden barbs and you'd be set.

DotFrog · 01-26-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by holly12

With 3 Kuhli's and then your barbs, you could add 3 more cherry barbs and 4 more golden barbs and you'd be set.

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navigator black · 01-27-2012, 05:02 AM

See if you like the look of the pearl gourami.

DotFrog · 01-27-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by navigator black

See if you like the look of the pearl gourami.

Yeah, what do I need to know about them?

DotFrog · 01-27-2012, 03:05 PM

Ok, I know this is pushing it, but my friend is getting a 20 gallon, and he wants my barbs with his bigger school of them, leaving me with my wonderful little kuhli loaches. I also know someone with a 20 gallon with about 15 goldfish. Im just throwing this out there, but
is there any way I could have some type of goldfish in my tank plus 3 kuhlies?

Gizmo · 01-27-2012, 03:29 PM

You cold have 1-2 goldies in that 20 gallon, but keep in mind the ammonia generation will be high (especially when they get to be adults), so you'll have to do a LOT of water changes or there will be algae issues, cloudy water, etc. In addition, goldies have a tendency to eat any live plants you might put in there.

I'm sorry to hear about such horribly overstocked tanks as your friends have. You might want to ask the one with the goldie tank how his water parameters are.

navigator black · 01-27-2012, 03:32 PM

I used to keep pearls with barbs all the time in 20 gallon tanks. They are a broad bodied showpiece fish that surface breathes and is tolerant. Like the barbs you have, they are from Asia, so the geography's not far wrong if that matters to you.

The general rate for goldfish should be one fish per each 20-30 gallons, so they can grow to size and live their life (several decades). They have digestions like incontinent cows, and you had better be ready to change water ferociously with them.
Always look at the maximum size of a fish, not at its current size. If you like it, you don't want it to outgrow its welcome.

DotFrog · 01-27-2012, 03:34 PM

It isn't just about goldies, but I have a pond in my yard with 9 of them, and I would just like any good sized, active, friendly fish that could be my guy instead of having a whole bunch of small ones to look after. Are pearls the way to go? This is a big deal for me.

DotFrog · 01-27-2012, 07:32 PM

I'll just get some more cories and barbs. Thank you all anyways!

navigator black · 01-28-2012, 08:15 PM

You ever consider angelfish? Tons of personality, easy to keep, moderately large, easy to find. If the barbs are gone, an angel might work with corys and a few tetras. I used to have tanks like that all the time and everyone flourished. Kuhlis would work well. No barbs with angels though.
One big friendly fish means something territorial - you want it small enough not to crowd the tank but big enough to claim the tank, and face you looking you in the eye...

DotFrog · 01-28-2012, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by navigator black

You ever consider angelfish? Tons of personality, easy to keep, moderately large, easy to find. If the barbs are gone, an angel might work with corys and a few tetras. I used to have tanks like that all the time and everyone flourished. Kuhlis would work well. No barbs with angels though.
One big friendly fish means something territorial - you want it small enough not to crowd the tank but big enough to claim the tank, and face you looking you in the eye...

I always thought angelfish were out of reach for a 20g.

DotFrog · 01-29-2012, 08:52 AM

*Ahem* let me rephraise that. Would it be possible to have an angelfish in my 20g?

Fish042099 · 01-29-2012, 09:39 AM

You need a really tall tank for one, they get 8'' tall. How tall is your tank?

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DotFrog DotFrog's Photo Gallery Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 160 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 231 Times Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Simple question What fish should I get for my 20 gallon? I have the 3 kuhli loaches, the gold barb and 2 cherry barbs. I will rehome the zebra loach, and get 1 or 2 more cherry barbs. Idk about the Cory though. Throw me some sudgestions so I don't screw up again. Thank you!!!!!!! __________________ 20 gallon semi planted: Filters: top fin 10 and 20 power filters. Fish: 2 panda cories, 1 peppered Cory, 5 kuhli loaches, and 4 cherry barbs.

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DotFrog DotFrog's Photo Gallery Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 160 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 231 Times Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Simple question I really want a sort of big fish that will be very active on his own and swim around the tank. I may rehome the cory and have 3 cherries and the gold barb who happily swims with them and my other fish. __________________ 20 gallon semi planted: Filters: top fin 10 and 20 power filters. Fish: 2 panda cories, 1 peppered Cory, 5 kuhli loaches, and 4 cherry barbs.

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DotFrog DotFrog's Photo Gallery Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 160 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 231 Times Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Simple question Ok, I know this is pushing it, but my friend is getting a 20 gallon, and he wants my barbs with his bigger school of them, leaving me with my wonderful little kuhli loaches. I also know someone with a 20 gallon with about 15 goldfish. Im just throwing this out there, but is there any way I could have some type of goldfish in my tank plus 3 kuhlies? __________________ 20 gallon semi planted: Filters: top fin 10 and 20 power filters. Fish: 2 panda cories, 1 peppered Cory, 5 kuhli loaches, and 4 cherry barbs.

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DotFrog DotFrog's Photo Gallery Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 160 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 231 Times Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Simple question It isn't just about goldies, but I have a pond in my yard with 9 of them, and I would just like any good sized, active, friendly fish that could be my guy instead of having a whole bunch of small ones to look after. Are pearls the way to go? This is a big deal for me. __________________ 20 gallon semi planted: Filters: top fin 10 and 20 power filters. Fish: 2 panda cories, 1 peppered Cory, 5 kuhli loaches, and 4 cherry barbs.

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DotFrog DotFrog's Photo Gallery Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 160 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 231 Times Said "Thanks" 7 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Simple question I'll just get some more cories and barbs. Thank you all anyways! __________________ 20 gallon semi planted: Filters: top fin 10 and 20 power filters. Fish: 2 panda cories, 1 peppered Cory, 5 kuhli loaches, and 4 cherry barbs. Last edited by DotFrog : 01-27-2012 at 09:04 PM.

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