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Old 01-15-2011, 04:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My some of my goldfish keep spittin the food out sometimes they spit it into pieces and sometimes they spit it out as a whole flake,what should i do?
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Old 01-15-2011, 04:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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my fish (guppies and mollies) do the same thing. Its funny though, its like they only do it to the green flake. I think they just don't like the taste of it. I have fish that only go for orange flakes and not green ones and others just go for whatever they can fit in their mouth LOL
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yeah sounds like you've just got picky fish, lol

my guppies do the same with some color flakes. not problem though; the left overs sink to the bottom and my shrimp swarm over them
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Ya now that i think about it,they usually just spit out the red ones lol!
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Oh also i have a juvenile gold goldfish hes a fantail,hes getting some black lining on the oustide of his tail,is this anything i should be worried about?
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Have you tried feeding pellets instead of flakes?Flakes are like the generic dog food found at the dollar store,lol.Very poor quality.

Is the black coloring or is his fins getting ragged?
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I dont know, his fins look fine ill try to post a pic later for now i have church.
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It's on all of hive fins,every single one and its just like an outline of black on the edges of all fins but hes swimming and acting normal
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Please post a picture, sounds like it could be either a color change or possibly ammonia burn. Pics would help!
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Man i wish i could but i dont have a camera :( its on every fin just on 1 out of 4 goldfish and he's a juvenile he currently has no color on his fins.
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Probably even better would be to test for ammonia
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Well i'm 14 and i dont have test kit yet cause my parents think i'm going overboard with all this supplies i really had to persuade them just to get a gravel vacuum (which is not working) but the tank did seem to get cloudy and now it just looks like the coloring is on the tips of the fins.I know its hard to diagnose something you don't have stats to read to jump to conclusions,it's a 10g with 3 plastic plants and when i got home yesterday there was a lot of buubles at the top.
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Ok, so here's the deal, if the coloring just appeared out of nowhere, wasn't there when you bought the fish, I'm going to say I think this is ammonia poisoning, and that you probably need to do a partial water change. How recently did you do one? I'd replace 50% of the water (do you have chemicals for treating the chlorine and chloramine in the tap water before you put it in the tank? I hope so.) Ideally we would have you do an ammonia test to know for sure, but even without a test, a water change will not make things worse for your fish, and if there is too much ammonia (which can be caused by fish waste or even extra food they don't eat) a partial water change will help fix it.
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Ok, so here's the deal, if the coloring just appeared out of nowhere, wasn't there when you bought the fish, I'm going to say I think this is ammonia poisoning, and that you probably need to do a partial water change. How recently did you do one? I'd replace 50% of the water (do you have chemicals for treating the chlorine and chloramine in the tap water before you put it in the tank? I hope so.) Ideally we would have you do an ammonia test to know for sure, but even without a test, a water change will not make things worse for your fish, and if there is too much ammonia (which can be caused by fish waste or even extra food they don't eat) a partial water change will help fix it.
I agree, how long was the tank set up before the goldie was added? Was the tank cycled? You must get the test kit!!, especially with goldies as they produce more waste than regular tropicals. Show your parents this post and the one before this, if you want your goldie to be healthy and they want you do do a good job taking care of your pet they will understand.
If you have any other questions let me know.
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I do water changes every 2-3 days but they're manual i stick a pitcher in and pour the water in the sink until the water is about halfway down the tank,then i fill it up with new water.I do not use dechlorinator,with me being dumb i just filled up the tank went to Petsmart bought 2 black moors(looking fine) and 4 fantails(uhh yeah i know now that was way too many fish for a 10g tank) i had the tank filled up with water for at least 2 hours (dumb score 2 smart score 0) i bought the filter gravel and plastic plants along with them and set it up.The next morning 1 fantail was stuck to the filter(still breathing but died a few hours later)I got store credit but did NOT buy another.Then about a week and a half another fantail died(last weekend)same thing stuck to the filter.The water has been getting cloudier,right before the last fantail died this gold fantail got coloring,his fins had absolutely NO color before so this is what worries me.This has not happened to the other fantail nor the black moors(of course!their already black!) so this is where im at right now i'll show them the posts
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The rule of thumb for fancy goldfish (like the moors and the fantails) is 10gallons per fancy goldfish. SO if you have a 10gallon tank you should only have one goldfish. I know it sucks but its a rule because they are very dirty fish. What I suggest you do is choose 1 goldfish, and see if you can take the rest back and get credit. This is better for you and the fish. Also take a sample of water with you to the pet store, they can test if for free. Buy some conditioner (you can use your shop credit for this). If you don't want to, then have your water sit for at least 24hrs before adding it to your fish tank. The bad news is you have lost fish and you may lose more because you haven't cycled your tank, BUT your tank can cycle with a goldfish in it but it will be rough on your fish :/
When you get money or store credit buy some real plants that will help with the water quality and help ease the ammonia for the goldfish.
Fancy goldfish have lots of issues for even the most experienced fishkeeper. Because their bodies are so round and compact this causes them to become constipated and get swim bladder problems. When I kept goldfish I used to go to Kokos goldfish world a lot. (Koko's goldfish world) there is sooooo much good information there, and the people in the forums are realllly helpful. I suggest you read up a bit.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
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yeah, I agree, you absolutely have to buy tap water conditioner, and you need to make sure it treats chlorine and chloramine. If your local water treatment plant uses chloramine, letting it sit will not evaporate out the chloramine, so be safe and buy tap water conditioner.

I also agree with fewer fish in your tank - it will be easier for you to keep your tank clean and your fish will have more room to grow. One goldfish is plenty. If you take good care of it, it will grow really big and live a long time. Focus your money (allowance etc.) on things to make your fish comfortable, like plants and equipment for taking care of the tank: a net, maybe a scrubber to help clean the glass, filter materials for when your filter needs changing (what kind of filter have you got?) better foods, stuff like that you can add gradually. If you don't get an allowance, one thing that worked for me when I was your age was saying "I would like this (fill in the blank). It costs (fill in the blank). Are there jobs I can do around the house to earn the money for (fill in the blank)?" Parents love stuff like that, provided money isn't already tight.
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You are WAY over stocked in a 10 Gallon tank. I agree with "danilykins" I am also a member at Koko's goldfish forum. It is the best place to get advice on anything goldfish.
I would try to take all but one goldie back for store credit. With the credit I would get a test kit, and some water conditioner. When I do my water changes I fill 3 - 5gallon buckets the day before, add conditioner and let them site for 24hours. Then I will do the change. This way all of the impurities are out of the water.
Sounds like your first few died from ammonia poisoning. I will admit I too have done the same mistake with fancy goldfish. If you have any questions just ask I will be glad to help.
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I don't think Petsmart will let you do that do they?I will start gradually getting stuff,don't goldfish eat live plants though?I do also have another 10g stocked with 4 red clawed crabs,and a small divided tank for bettas also...When i first got the fish they all looked sick sittin at the bottom of the tank,but when i start doing pwc's they seemed more active and look alot better now,but one looked fine then the next day he was dead,i did notice before he died he had one tailfin longer than the other,i know it's too late but could that have possibly been fin rot?
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They have a guarantee on their fish. If you look at your receipt I think it even says so on there. You can bring them back within the guarantee period.

Some plants that are small, like duckweed, the goldfish will just eat, but tougher plants, like anacharis or java moss or java fern they will not.

Don't buy another thing before you get some water conditioner.
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