Starting a Native tank

ELewandowski · 05-02-2009, 07:40 AM

Setting up a 75gal for native fish. I think i need a permit to keep them though, so Im looking into that. But gonna keep bluegill and sunfish in there. Maybe a bass too, not sure yet.

ladyonyx · 05-02-2009, 06:24 PM

I kept a breeding pair of red shiners for a while. Beautiful fish, especially the males during breeding season. I'd recommend looking into shiners

05-02-2009, 06:58 PM

Dont need a permit to own them.

Just cant use them as bait in some/most states.

Most places have a "DO NOT RETURN TO WATER" species list and most the time sunfish and gills are on it.

05-02-2009, 06:59 PM

Why the cold water tank for them?

do you want to keep them in winter mode all the time?

ELewandowski · 05-02-2009, 09:51 PM

not really "cold" just room temp, so really 66F prolly. And the way I am reading the MI DNR State Law is that it is Illegal to keep a "gamefish" alive out of its fishing season unless permitted to by the DNR.

But maybe it has changed. I havent called them yet, just read that in the fishing handbook.

05-03-2009, 09:10 AM

Wanna give me the DNR link?

And I can get you a firm answer on it, I now we keep game fish in every state in and out of season. Keep a game fish out of season means disobeying creel limits and taking during spawn( spawn is what is considered the off season )

ELewandowski · 05-03-2009, 09:15 AM

DNR link is michigan.gov/dnr

I cant find it, but i believe it was in the fishing handbook where I read it. I just dont want to break any laws and lose my fish.

ELewandowski · 05-03-2009, 04:56 PM

well, panfish are in season all year, so we went fishing today and caught 3 bluegill, 2 sunfish, and 1 crappie. So that is a start to our native tank.

05-03-2009, 05:15 PM

They usually are, Ive never seen any sign saying DO NOT TAKE PANFISH, they are like ants in most bodies of water.

What kind of sunfish?
what crappie?

ELewandowski · 05-03-2009, 05:31 PM

its a white crappie and the sunfish are pumpkinseed

05-03-2009, 06:37 PM

Its been a few years since I got a pumpkinseed.

Those white crappie can get huge, thru the ice this past winter we were getting them in the 3# range.

ELewandowski · 05-03-2009, 07:32 PM

yeah, i've only caught them up to 12", but I've heard they get 18+ inches.

This guy is only 6" right now.

ELewandowski · 05-09-2009, 08:27 AM

well, only the White crappie is still alive. The sunfish and bluegill died due to hook placement i believe, they swallow it so differently than the crappie, the crappie eats more like a bass than a panfish, so its hooks was only in the paper thin part of the mouth and is already completely healed. He is a cool fish to watch feed, due to it being wild caught, I am keeping it on a wild type diet of live foods.

ELewandowski · 05-14-2009, 11:36 AM

UPDATE:

I still have the crappie and now I also have a White(striped) Bass

ELewandowski · 05-17-2009, 11:03 AM

Crappie

White(striped) Bass

JIM · 05-31-2009, 12:43 PM

DNR - Department of Natural Resources This should give you all the info you need, if not there is a contact point there also. Good luck with your Native fish keeping hobby, If i can help please let me know

Unholy_roller · 06-03-2009, 08:30 PM

Its good to see people keeping natives. My longear sunfish is just gorgeous right now, and so are my green sunfish.

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Starting a Native tank Setting up a 75gal for native fish. I think i need a permit to keep them though, so Im looking into that. But gonna keep bluegill and sunfish in there. Maybe a bass too, not sure yet. __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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whitedevil Posts: n/a Feedback: / %	Re: Starting a Native tank Dont need a permit to own them. Just cant use them as bait in some/most states. Most places have a "DO NOT RETURN TO WATER" species list and most the time sunfish and gills are on it.

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05-03-2009, 09:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
whitedevil Posts: n/a Feedback: / %	Re: Starting a Native tank Wanna give me the DNR link? And I can get you a firm answer on it, I now we keep game fish in every state in and out of season. Keep a game fish out of season means disobeying creel limits and taking during spawn( spawn is what is considered the off season )

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Starting a Native tank DNR link is michigan.gov/dnr I cant find it, but i believe it was in the fishing handbook where I read it. I just dont want to break any laws and lose my fish. __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Starting a Native tank well, panfish are in season all year, so we went fishing today and caught 3 bluegill, 2 sunfish, and 1 crappie. So that is a start to our native tank. __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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whitedevil Posts: n/a Feedback: / %	Re: Starting a Native tank They usually are, Ive never seen any sign saying DO NOT TAKE PANFISH, they are like ants in most bodies of water. What kind of sunfish? what crappie?

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Starting a Native tank its a white crappie and the sunfish are pumpkinseed __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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whitedevil Posts: n/a Feedback: / %	Re: Starting a Native tank Its been a few years since I got a pumpkinseed. Those white crappie can get huge, thru the ice this past winter we were getting them in the 3# range.

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Starting a Native tank yeah, i've only caught them up to 12", but I've heard they get 18+ inches. This guy is only 6" right now. __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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ELewandowski Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 192 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 0 Times Said "Thanks" 6 Times Was Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Starting a Native tank well, only the White crappie is still alive. The sunfish and bluegill died due to hook placement i believe, they swallow it so differently than the crappie, the crappie eats more like a bass than a panfish, so its hooks was only in the paper thin part of the mouth and is already completely healed. He is a cool fish to watch feed, due to it being wild caught, I am keeping it on a wild type diet of live foods. __________________ 10 Tanks Running ?? Fish swimming-Lost Count Check profile for my fish stock

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