oscar and jack dempsey

37tall · 07-28-2011, 06:06 PM

they are both opening their mouths wide and "scratching" it along the side of the aquarium and along rocks. is this a problem?

AxolotlMan · 07-28-2011, 06:40 PM

huge problem. it means your fish have two hours to live (: good luck!

majerah1 · 07-28-2011, 07:06 PM

While it is a problem,no one knows exactly how long they will live......

Scratching continually means something is irritating them.Most the time it points to parasites,but the gaping mouth makes me think ammonia.We need a little info on your setup
Tank size
inhabitants
waterchange schedule
and test results from:Ammonia
Nitrite
Nitrate.

The best thing you can do,is right now remove half the water and replace with fresh.

37tall · 07-28-2011, 07:15 PM

i changed 25 percent last night, could it be that i just added 30 danios and goldfish to the tank? i quarntined the fish and they were fine. could it be because i added so many fish so quickly and caused an ammonia boost? i usually never add so many fish but my small jack dempsey and small oscar eat them like crazy, i trade fish with the lfs and never let my fish get biggerr than 6 inches in the tank. i have never tested the water, what would i need to do that? its 37 tall, with 4 inch sailfin pleco, 5inch oscar 3 inches dempsey and 18 feeder fish left in the tank. thanks for the help

susankat · 07-28-2011, 08:32 PM

That would cause a big ammonia spike, plus the fact that feeder fish can cause all kinds of problems if one happens to have some sort of disease. They really wouldn't need more than 2 each if you want to feed them feeders. Your fish are already heavy waste producers then you added that many, you are probably having a huge ammonia spike.

Get yourself a liquid test kit at least for ammonia and keep an eye on your water parameters. If not you could have all sorts of problems and loose your fish.

majerah1 · 07-28-2011, 08:35 PM

Well, er,yeah im guessing that has a ton to do with it.You need a master test kit,found at your LFS.

sergey456 · 08-26-2011, 08:30 AM

2 possible reasons for your problem:

1.parasites
2.bad water

I would say in 90% of cases it's the water quality.

panicbess · 08-30-2011, 01:59 PM

Bad Water you never want the feeder too over populate the local fish. Come on now!!

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AxolotlMan AxolotlMan's Photo Gallery Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 35 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 1 Times Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: oscar and jack dempsey huge problem. it means your fish have two hours to live (: good luck!

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37tall 37tall's Photo Gallery Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 74 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 12 Times Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: oscar and jack dempsey i changed 25 percent last night, could it be that i just added 30 danios and goldfish to the tank? i quarntined the fish and they were fine. could it be because i added so many fish so quickly and caused an ammonia boost? i usually never add so many fish but my small jack dempsey and small oscar eat them like crazy, i trade fish with the lfs and never let my fish get biggerr than 6 inches in the tank. i have never tested the water, what would i need to do that? its 37 tall, with 4 inch sailfin pleco, 5inch oscar 3 inches dempsey and 18 feeder fish left in the tank. thanks for the help

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