![]() |
Advertise |
|||||||||||
|
||||||||||||
|
|
||||||||
|
Welcome to the Aquarium Forum forums. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
OR |
Members currently in the chatroom: 6
|
|
![]() |
The most chatters online in one day was 16, 03-02-2012. CrazyMFFM, susankat, whitetiger61, zero, majerah1, Redemer123 |
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools |
|
|
#1 (permalink) |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
I recently got a 110gallon long (6ft) aquarium for $120 (glass only) and two more 30 gallons for $20 each. I am currently building a rack/stand for this and several other smaller tanks. I'd like to move my 3 severums, 4 port acara cichlids, and wild-type sailfin molly "colony" into the 110 to grow out and possibly breed. I have 1x55gal, 3x30gal, 2x20gal,3x10gal tanks (empty) that I can use as hospital/nursery tanks. The sailfin babies have not been predated upon by any other fish. I also wish to plant this tank, probably going to do this cheaply using local river fast-growth species (cleaned), instead of beautiful amazon swords, etc.
My questions: 1. Does any of this spell disaster so far (am I forgetting someone has territory issues and will kill someone else, or perhaps I overlooked someone's breeding pH requirements)? 2. In addition to the above-mentioned species, will adding Dwarf Flag Cichlids, Festivums, and Keyhole Cichlids be appropriate? I would like to breed all of these fish and do not mind removing a pair temporarily for breeding, or permanently if things get out of hand. Will they be constantly breeding/territory dispute-ing or can I just lower the temp/raise the pH just enough to get them out of "season" when necessary? 3. What would be the ideal population size for each species (to both look nice, and avoid overpopulation)? 4.1 What sort of filtration am I looking at? I currently have a Fluval 205, an old higher-output canister (with no labels), and an AC110 (not sure if this is the right model name, its the largest HOB they make). I need to keep at least one of these filters on my 75 gallon oscar tank. Will any combination of 2 of these filters be enough filtration? 4.2 If the filtration isn't enough, or I find that the oscar's need to keep 2 of their filters (most likely), I will probably be a cheapo and make a fully-submersed veggie sump out of a 20 gallon long. Is that large enough for a sump for this sized aquarium? 4.2.1 What plants would suck the most out of the water, yet stay IN the tank (no huge plants growing out into my living room!)? I have a lot of tanks, but not nearly enough to raise this amount of fry all at once. I'm hoping to grow some out and sell/give away the rest as needed. Of course income is great, at least enough to support the hobby, but I really just find raising fry fascinating. I hope this can be a win/win in those regards. Please don't feel that you need to answer ALL of these questions, or be an expert. Any information is welcomed/needed! Thank you, Craig |
|
|
|
![]() | Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free! Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more. |
|
Sponsors |
|
|
#2 (permalink) |
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 41 Times
Said "Thanks" 10 Times
Was
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
|
I don't know (every cichlid is different) but I will say I have a severum in an African Cichlid tank and he is very aggressive. Kinda funny he's second in the pecking order. The dwarfs should be fine so long as you provide many hiding places, the severum might look at them as a snack. Filtration don't really know to much (still learning) but I do know just get a powerful one cichlid's like to kick up a lot of dirt, especially during territory fights.
__________________
20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer 25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib. 36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid |
|
|
|
| Said thanks: |
|
|
#3 (permalink) |
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,112
Name: WhiteDevil
Location: NW suburbs of chicago
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 145 Times
Said "Thanks" 48 Times
Was
Thanked 413 Times in 385 Posts
|
Is it a true port acara? after ww2 they were not available in america and rather the black acara was used in its place. they are burrowers and will dig out holes for their fry and are only aggressive at spawning time.
severums are mean little snots and can/will pick off other fish especially those that dont fight back with the same aggression. Plants, id get hearty ones like swords and anubias. |
|
|
|
| Said thanks: |
|
|
#4 (permalink) |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
Wow! Are you guys for real about the severums!? I thought they were supposed to be super-docile! The ones that I have are still juvenile, the largest is maybe 4 inches total length, but they all 3 get bullied by this massive farm raised sailfin molly (which is quite a site), whom we've named Ron Jeremy (think live-bearer anatomy). That molly pair had 50+ babies in that tank and I also keep 4 golden topminnows as well, and none of them have been eaten. I've secretly watched them (creepily) and they have never once even "looked" at any of these bite-sized fish. They also only eat flake food for some reason. Do you think this temperment will change as they grow out more, or am I lucky?
The guy at the shop called them "Cichlasoma portalegrense", though its an almost strictly african cichlid shop. Most of their fish are wild-caught or F1s, however he said that these were most likely farm-raised (which may mean they are not the true port). I don't know much about these fish, but bought them after having never seen them before and using the store's computer to read about their behavior/requirements. I will try to get some pics up here very soon. Is there any key difference I should look for? Or could you refer me to some images of both types? Thanks again guys! |
|
|
|
|
|
#5 (permalink) |
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 41 Times
Said "Thanks" 10 Times
Was
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
|
You might get lucky with the severums but don't count on it. here's a vid of my 36G african (besides the severum) Btw they are all still juvi moving to a 55G within 2 months. They get along for the most part mainly because they are all very aggressive.
__________________
20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer 25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib. 36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid |
|
|
|
|
Sponsors |
|
|
#6 (permalink) |
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,112
Name: WhiteDevil
Location: NW suburbs of chicago
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 145 Times
Said "Thanks" 48 Times
Was
Thanked 413 Times in 385 Posts
|
read this, Port Acara | Cichlasoma portalegrense
mongabay is great for straight information on fish as well as fishbase.org |
|
|
|
| Said thanks: |
|
|
#7 (permalink) | |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
Quote:
I really like how you got those caves set up with the flat rocks, I can never seem to do that right (probably b/c the 200 lbs of rock I got from the rock yard were all dredged up river rock that was for the most part rounded if not brick-like. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#8 (permalink) |
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 41 Times
Said "Thanks" 10 Times
Was
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
|
He is for the most part but when he gets chased it fades. The rocks I use pretty much in all my tanks are slate rock. It works great for stacking (without aquarium glue) or with if you prefer, i don't, and the fish love em. One thing to keep in mind with cichlid they want only 1 entrance to their caves/huts.
__________________
20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer 25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib. 36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid |
|
|
|
| Said thanks: |
|
|
#9 (permalink) | |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#10 (permalink) | |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
Quote:
The main rock I think I will use is a brown "flint" rock, the type you can get a spark with. The other is some type of quartz or crystalline rock. I've read that some of these are fine, while others are very NOT fine. It is stained pink to yellow closer to the exterior, but has a white/clear cubical crystal interior and is not sharp. I'm pretty lost in the rock department tbh. Maybe I should bring them to up to campus and have some geologists look at them. A friend told me to run a metal detector over them LOL! I told him I'll go to the pawn shop with 200lbs of rock as soon as possible and tell them I want to test one of their rigs (joke). Thanks for the info guys, Craig |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#11 (permalink) |
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,112
Name: WhiteDevil
Location: NW suburbs of chicago
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 145 Times
Said "Thanks" 48 Times
Was
Thanked 413 Times in 385 Posts
|
I can get slate in warm months as i have to wade the river for it however i can get glacial shale anytime, its dark grey and my fish love it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#12 (permalink) |
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 41 Times
Said "Thanks" 10 Times
Was
Thanked 30 Times in 30 Posts
|
Wish I could get glacial would love to try it out. As for slate it's readily available here all year round (Florida, Tampa area) and I have piles of it in my back yard (used to make pool water fall) Yes slate can contain many metals but for me to see if its safe I wash it first with high pressure hot water. Then I soak in bleach for about 2-4 days (rock is porous) to kill anything that might be hiding in the rock. After soaking in bleach I then remove the rock and wash again with high pressure hot water then put it in a container with de-chlorinated water (Add a bit more de-chlorinator to make sure it gets the bleach in the rock) let soak for 1-2 weeks. After that the rock is then put into a quarantine tank with tetras snails, and shrimp, and a tiny khuli loach. leave rock in tank for about 5 days see if any creatures die/become ill if not then into primary tank it goes. Btw this can be done with multiple rocks just need a big enough soaking area (big trashcan)
__________________
20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer 25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib. 36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid |
|
|
|
| Said thanks: |
|
|
#13 (permalink) | |
|
Team Aquaticopia
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 11 Times
Said "Thanks" 33 Times
Was
Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts
|
Quote:
Do you you guys think you could attempt an identification of a few rocks if I get some huge images of them linked here? I'm still putting this tiny vid together to show you the acaras. Last night I moved the remaining 2 from the uncycled tank into my now over crowded 30 gallon b/c the ammonia was getting high (I had expected the new 30 gallons to be setup several days ago, but the tank rack building has come to a pause...my carpenter-neighbor has some personal stuff goin' on and I dont want to be pushy. These "port cichlids" went crazy and changed to almost black and then back to pale again rapidly, with 2 of them showing almost complete black below the lateral line and the whole face (similar to breeding carpintis). I may attempt to build it myself tonight, although he never drew plans/explained how these few cut pieces of wood are to be assembled. He's not following a traditional overlap schematic, which worries me especially if I do it myself). This rack is being built first to house my fish until the 110 is setup and cycled, it will consist of 2x30 gallons and 1 or 2 20 gallons stacked vertically. Fish video, rock pics, and a tank rack DIY video coming soon! Thanks again, Craig |
|
|
|
|