Aquarium Forum
Advertise
Freshwater Fish Diseases, Algae Problems, and Tank Emergencies This is a place to chat about different ailments of freshwater fish, as well as tips on how to control algae, and other topics about keeping your fish tank healthy. If you're having problems keeping your fish healthy, or the fish don't seem to be well, of you have some other type of emergency, this is the discussion board to post in. Our community of members will promptly give you guidance.

Go Back   Aquarium Forum General Freshwater Aquarium Topics Freshwater Fish Diseases, Algae Problems, and Tank Emergencies

Forgot Password?
Connect with Facebook

Welcome to the Aquarium Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Connect with Facebook
OR

Members currently in the chatroom: 6
The most chatters online in one day was 16, 03-02-2012.
CrazyMFFM, susankat, whitetiger61, zero, majerah1, Redemer123

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-04-2012, 12:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Exclamation TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

THESE ARE NOT MY FISH I AM SIMPLY POSTING THIS FOR THE OWNER!

So in this 44-50gal tank they have:
3 HIGHLY aggressive gold gouramis
2 beaten up black lace angels
5 firehead tetras
2 yoyo loaches
1 bloated/pregnant green tiger bard (The rest died from ick)
1 chubby blue fish that they have no idea what is.

The gourmis are attacking the angels left and right. The angels bodies and fins are all beaten up. The owner left it to me… (Owner being my dad) So here are some pictures. I really have no idea what to do. I'm thinking about cleaning the whole tank (Oh, yea the tank is algae and snail infested also) removing the guormis and seeing if that helps anything. I REALLY need help!


a gold gourami with wound on back from angel


Here's one of the angels with wounds on the side and with torn fins


Gold gourami with missing eye (most aggressive)


Angel with wounds


This lil' guy isn't very well and we have no idea what he is either


The one green tiger barb


The whole set up

Please don't freak out! This isn't my fault! I just need to know how to fix it! My dad said it was my job to fix it… So please? I don't want to do my dad's solution! My dad says just let the problem fish go in the river. but i don't want to do that so PLEASE! any advice is greatly appreciated! Aside from that, the tank is infested with hair algae some yellow-ish algae on the glass and normal algae on the glass and snails… also there was an out break of ick not too long ago that killed all the green tiger barbs except one.
pinkcupid765 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To pinkcupid765

Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free!

Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

AquariumForum.com is owned and operated by fellow lifelong aquarium enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join AquariumForum.com Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 02-04-2012, 12:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
dht
dht's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 13
Location: alabama
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

i have had agressive groumis in the past ,i would just get rid of it,thats why i hate groumis.the stress they are putting on the other fish could very well bring back the ich ,wich is a night mare ,im sure u already know.for the algae i dont really know,if its hair algae and u pull it out ,dont just throw it back in the tank though because it will grow where ever it lands in your tank.
dht is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To dht
Old 02-04-2012, 01:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
dht
dht's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 13
Location: alabama
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

some snails are actually good ,they will eat the algae ,but some types will eat your plants,i would scrub the algea away and do water change too.
dht is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To dht
Old 02-04-2012, 01:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks! I'll put the groumis in a spare 10 gal i have for now, change the water, scrape all the algae off, and let it be for a bit? Is that right? Also, any idea what that blue fish is?
pinkcupid765 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To pinkcupid765
Old 02-04-2012, 01:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
Pleco n bn breeder n BOSS
susankat's Avatar
Welcome Wagon Aquarium Forum Tank Of The Month Winner
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,420
Name: Susan
Location: Tulsa, Ok
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 4,151 Times
Said "Thanks" 1,617 Times
Was Thanked 1,809 Times in 1,549 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

I would take the gouramis to an lfs or find some one that has a big enough tank to handle 3 of them.

Don't ever release to the wild as it can cause a lot of ecological problems down the road, plus its illegal in most states with some hefty fines.

If you google algae control you will find different types to see which you have and also ways to get rid of it.

On the blue fish you will need to get a side shot of it for anyone to be able to tell.
__________________
SUCCESS IS MEASURED BY YEARS, NOT MONTHS!!!
220 Tank build
http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/sta...late-3253.html
susankat is online now   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To susankat
Sponsors

Old 02-04-2012, 01:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
Oddball Lover
Manafel's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 303
Name: Kayla
Location: Tulsa, OK
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 35 Times
Was Thanked 64 Times in 64 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

I agree with susan, I would re-home the gouramis. The blue fish you have def. looks like an electric blue Ram. They are really docile cichlids(I have one and he is the sweetest thing!). As far as the algae goes, I would just do a water change after getting rid of the algae(I would research what kind you have before you do though)

Here is a pic of a healthy EBR:
__________________
Frontosa Fanatic
Manafel is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Manafel
Old 02-04-2012, 01:34 PM   #7 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Okay thanks! Here's the blue guy!

pinkcupid765 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To pinkcupid765
Old 02-04-2012, 01:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Woah! My dad's is like a baby version! He's really sweet, or docile as you say. Thank you guys so much! I really appreciate it! I'm about to move my bettas to a bookshelf so i have lots of room on my desk! I'll make them a nice little home! Thanks for all the help!
pinkcupid765 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To pinkcupid765
Old 02-04-2012, 01:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
Oddball Lover
Manafel's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 303
Name: Kayla
Location: Tulsa, OK
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 35 Times
Was Thanked 64 Times in 64 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Yep. Thats an EBR. Also. I would get more tiger barbs(at leas 4 more) soon otherwise, your one tiger barb will possibly start nipping fins if it hasn't already. If you want the fish's wounds to heal faster, you could add a little aquarium salt(I would make sure the loaches can handle a little salt) or use melafix. It will help them heal faster
__________________
Frontosa Fanatic
Manafel is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Manafel
Old 02-04-2012, 01:45 PM   #10 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 10
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Ok! I'll get started now! Thanks! :D
pinkcupid765 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To pinkcupid765
Old 02-04-2012, 01:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 435
Location: springville ny
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 109 Times
Said "Thanks" 40 Times
Was Thanked 123 Times in 115 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

First off thats a cool looking setup, It sounds like the tank may have been neglected for a bit how are your parameters? i.e. Ammonia and such. theres a few different ways to get rid of snails use a cup or a water bottle with a piece of zucchini or cucumber then clean out trap as needed, pick off as many as you can while your in there. sounds like your already getting the gourmis out which is good, find them new home DO NOT DUMP THEM A RIVER, your blue ram is awesome looking, good luck
__________________
90 gallon, 1 Iridescent shark, 2 Pleco, 3 Goldfish, 5 Cory cats, 2 Nerite snails
5 gallon hex, Blue Crowntail Betta, 1 nerite snail,

hanky is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To hanky
Old 02-04-2012, 07:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
dht
dht's Avatar
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 13
Location: alabama
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

yea ,nice blue ram ,you really should try to keep him as long as you can.good luck!!!
dht is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To dht
Old 02-04-2012, 07:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 313
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 3 Times
Was Thanked 78 Times in 77 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Oh.. and ship the angels to me!...LOL.. good luck getting things back under control.. BUt,, I wonder why your dad is in the hobby in the first place?.. Bill in Va.
__________________
12 Tanks, 900 gallons. Discus/Angels/Malawi/Lake Victorias. Just added a 135 & 2 - 29's..
williemcd is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To williemcd
Old 02-06-2012, 11:24 AM   #14 (permalink)
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 46
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 4 Times
Was Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Default Re: TANK DISASTER! HELP! Please? Any advice is appreciated!

Do not over clean your tank. There is a natural cycle, the nitrogen cycle, and if you kill off the beneficial bacteria and plants you will have bigger problems. Fish waste and food decompose is a cycle of ammonia, nitrite, and finally nitrate. Nitrate is not too harmful for most fish but ammonia and nitrate can be lethal and at the best will make the sickly. For beginners overfeeding is the number one enemy of the ammonia problem.
The algae are a good thing. There are a lot of positives for the fish. It is also a big indication of high nitrogen. Think fertilizer. If you read the bags of lawn fertilizer you will see they provide nitrogen. It makes algae grow just like grass. When you remove the unwanted over-growth you remove some of the excess nitrogen.
The best way to remove the harmful ammonia and nitrite is also the best way to hold down the much less harmful nitrate, water changes. I use a new, or very clean, no soap, plastic trash can and age my water for a minimum of overnight, preferably several days. It should be near the same temperature as your tank and if you can run a bubbler in it while it ages that is better. As you get more into this you may start testing for PH, ammonia, and nitrogen, but in general you will be fine if you do not over-feed, and you do regular water changes, probably 25% once a week will be more than enough for the kind of fish you have.
Do not despair about the bacteria either. You can buy it to add to the tank to help through a rough spot or just to re-establish your filters. Google the nitrogen cycle and read up a little and you will have a lot more understanding of what is happening. Panic is a function of fear and fear a function of lack of knowledge. Educate yourself a little and you will sort through this just fine.
Rod4Rodger is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Rod4Rodger
Reply

Previous Thread: Rasbora issues
Next Thread: new 10g fungus issue.


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:52 AM.





Fish Topsites
Follow us on Twitter!
Alltop, confirmation that we kick ass

All content Copyright © AquariumForum.com & the respective author. All Rights Reserved.
Disclaimer: We are not responsible for the content of any post or thread. This is a public forum and the content posted does not reflect the opinions of nor are endorsed by AquariumForum.com nor any of our employees.