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Old 08-07-2012, 06:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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In my experience, it is important to keep the peat "in". It is going to rot - it is an organic material trapped under sand under water, and there will be gases released if it is diusturbed. It isn't inert.
There is no beaslbob method - that would be like me telling you to use a filter and calling it the "Nav-Method". It's kind of cheeky to name someone else's method after yourself - I tried these already old methods before Bob did, and dumped them as impractical. A little peat or soil under the sand/gravel with no filtration can give you decent plant growth for a couple of months for limited number of plant species, and will allow you to keep a very limited number of dull fish species.
The heart of "Bob's method" is the subtle twist he puts on it - no water changing or filtration, combined with limiting yourself to Anacharis and the types of hardy fish used to cycle a tank.

A well filtered, well maintained tank with a little peat in the substrate has nada to do with "his" method. It's an old method for starting plants first (fish as secondary concerns) type tanks.
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So this form of layering allows for no subsequent plant additions without making a mess?
No. Just the initial mess.

After that you can add plants and not result in extremely cloudy water and a bunch of floaties. Because the substrate is all wet.

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The heart of "Bob's method" is the subtle twist he puts on it - no water changing or filtration, combined with limiting yourself to Anacharis and the types of hardy fish used to cycle a tank.

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Perhaps that is nav-s method.

Just for the record, although I do mention platys and anacharis in the link in my signature, I gave them as examples to insure a new person using commonly available fish and plants had the best possible chance of success.


But these methods apply to all true aquatic plants and fish and even in saltwater as well as FW. They are definately not limited to "dull ugly fish and anancharis".

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But these methods apply to all true aquatic plants and fish and even in saltwater as well as FW. They are definately not limited to "dull ugly fish and anancharis".
Really doesn't sell what you're saying or better shows Anacharis may be where you need to stay.

Your method is a low-med light method, which generally will grow a lot of plants, especially the more common ones, but certainly not "all" as you mention. Your methods do not support very much, if any, higher light level either. I can explain that if you need me to.
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Really doesn't sell what you're saying or better shows Anacharis may be where you need to stay.

Your method is a low-med light method, which generally will grow a lot of plants, especially the more common ones, but certainly not "all" as you mention. Your methods do not support very much, if any, higher light level either. I can explain that if you need me to.
I'm glad you agree it is more then anacharis and platties.

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I'm glad you agree it is more then anacharis and platties.

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Tank is clear now, I got a new bulb for my old T9 fixture; catfish and 2 electric green tetra glofish are all happy and eating well!
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looks good. Lot more air than I believe bob would apply, maybe you'll have better success. DON'T BE AFRAID OF FILTERS.Looks good for real! Good luck.
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Tank is clear now, I got a new bulb for my old T9 fixture; catfish and 2 electric green tetra glofish are all happy and eating well!
Looking good.

to me it is amazing how quickly a tank clears up after the initial mess.

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A little advice though on your plant choices, The bambo in the center isn't aquatick and will rot.
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So should I just remove it until it grows leaves higher then the top of the tank?
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