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New 47 gallon column planted build

Hello everyone been a member for about 4 yrs or so but kinda disappeared for a while. Organa tank was a filterless fully planted build. That build is in my sig. Lng story short had that for couple years tore it down got ride of it and was tank less for a while. Got a new house and got new tanks. I have a 40 breeder that my son has an about 3"-4" eastern painted turtle and a couple cichlids in. Can't really do to many fish in there so wife wantwanted a tank on other side of couch. Got a great deal on column tank stand glass canopy. Today went out to aquarium center for there black Friday sale and stocked up some. I work night and I feel this post is all over the place. I have to take a hour and half nap and get up for work. I'll list my setup layer tonight when I have my head together. Just wanted to get this started because I've been saying I was gonna do one for a while and never did it. If anything take a look at my old build and you'll get a good idea of what I'm gonna do for this tank.
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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

Ok I know it's late 1:32am but I work in a hospital over night and got some time. So here it goes.
I have a 47g column tank set. So marineland tank with black silicone,glass top, wooden stand, and I upgraded the florescent tub to a marineland planted tank led light with built in timer. I love the tank with the black silicone makes such a big diffrence from the white silicone.

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I'm going for a planted community tank. My old build was a community tank but was filterless and I went with the cheapest stuff I could find. For substrate I used peat moss and safe-t-zorb which cost me $5 each. The safe t zorb is a all natural clay used for cleaning up oil and stuff in a garage. I used a knock off single bright led that each led was only like .78 watts each. This time around I wanted a Lil better equipment so here goes the run down of that.

Lighting marineland planted led light with built in timer. This is the newer model with 6500k white led and red green blue led pucks. It says it's equal to a 3 bulb t5 light so hopefully this will allow me to do a little more mid level light demanding plants.

Substrate I went with 3 bags of eco complete. Tank is 20"L by 18" W by 30"tall so the 3 bags should give me a little over 3" of a sand bed for some good anchoring.

Filter I got an aqua top cf400 canister with built in uv light. Just wanted a canister so I can load with seachem matrix and I wanted something with a spray bar return and I wanted use an in line heater so I could save space in the tank.

Heater gonna go with a hydor 300w in line heater attached to the hydor thermostat since only issue I've read is they get stuck on some times. But read lots of reviews that day as long as you have a thermostat there's no issues.

Stocking as followed

Plants tried to go with combination of fast and slow growers and some green and reds. Forgive me for spelling not great with these names

Anarchis
Ludwig broad leaf
Anubis not sure which ones
Cabomba
Java fern
A red Lilly bulb
Some kinda of cork screw sword
Crypt Wendel
And a nice big tall piece of driftwood that almost looks like a check mark. One side is about 10" tall and other side goes up like 28" I'll have to get pic when I get back home. Want to attach one of the Anubis to the center of that.

Fish stock is in air some but mostly know
Will have a pair of angels. Son wants a koi angel so hopefully can find a bonded pair.

Want small school of Congo tetras
School of rummy nose
School of panda cories
Red tailed shark
A bristle nosed plec. Not sure which variety I just like the sound of green dragon pleco

And maybe a couple other odd ball fish.
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Nice, I am a bit concerned about that red tailed shark. They are known to be aggressive, more aggressive when they are cramped I think. The tank does not look like it has a lot of floor space. I might get a rainbow shark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_shark They are semi aggressive, so I still might be concerned about your other fish but they are less aggressive then red tail sharks. If you would like a completely peaceful fish that looks some what similar to the red tail shark and is about the same size, then look at Siamese Algae Eaters http://tropical-fish-pictures.com/fi...lgae-eater.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_algae_eater Or perhaps you could go with an oddball like the twig catfish http://www.aquagora.fr/local/cache-v...la-2-4cb28.jpg http://dsmfishgal.typepad.com/photos..._catfish_2.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farlowella The Siamese Algae Eaters (SAE) can school or be kept alone. If you want more then 1, then you have to get 3 or more. If you want a school, then 6 is the perfect number for almost any schooling fish.

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I would nix the shark. They get way too large for your setup.

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If i drew it it'd look like a monkey eating a horsradish on the moon or something
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Yea the shark was my main iffy fish. I had a red trail shark in old setup and that was his favorite and he wanted one in this tank but I tools him I don't know about that. But he is 6 so I distracted him by letting him pick out a couple ornament for the tank.
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I would nix the shark. They get way too large for your setup.
That would go for the Rainbow too I assume? What do you think about the SAE?

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What do you guys think about a small group of about 3 south American puffers I kinda want some kinda shrimp in there so that's why I didn't say anything about them before.

Side note I just finished planting and filing up the tank. Everything came from aquarium center in blackwood. For south jersey I don't think you can get any better then them. I didn't book up the filter yet for couple reasons. I wanted the plants to take root for a at least a week or so cause I think I ended up with a good 3" 1/2"- 4" 1/2" bed . Plus I figured I didn't want the filter to get clogged up right away with any plants that would melt . And finely and most importantly I don't have the in line heater.

Is fish less so I the in some new life spectrum pellets and new life spectrum flakes for my starter I bought 2 liters of seachem matrix to go in the aquatop filter. I have a 40 breeder tank set up with an almost 4" eastern painted turtle, 3 zebra cichlids , and new knight goby. That tank has a marineland Emperor 400 on it with a bag of bio rings on one side and liter of matrix in other side. Plan is when I do set up filter take that let of matrix from turtle tank and mix that with another liter of matrix in one of the baskets in the aqua top to seed tank better. Then put the other let back in turtle tank to get seeded from the bio wheels and bio rings.

I do have pictures of set up so fair but to tired to post now. I'm trying to take nap now with my daughter. Ive been up since 8 am yesterday with only 1hr and half sleep before work last night. So sorry if this is all rambled together. After I wake up and have dinner I will post up pics.
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My cool piece of drift wood


Here I already dumped the 3 bags of eco complete and got the driftwood in place. The light is already programmed from factory. This is just with the red blue green leds on.


Here is with the daylight and blue red green leds on


Front shot after planting. Instead of scattered I tried bunching them together like you would see out in nature.
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This is going to be a good looking tank. I can tel you that .
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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

Looking good! I would have to read up on the puffers. I don't know enough about them.

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I know I read that the south American puffers are beat community friendly puffs but still need snails to eat so there breaks don't over grow. I never was bothered by snails. so if they came on the plants I just let them be. I just think I want to do some kinda shrimp in here to. I might just buy one of the 100 packs of ghost shrimp and dump them in here. That way if I do get the puffers it shouldn't sent them to much. But of course with the eco complete I want to have some colorful shrimp so might just do some cherries or something. I don't know guess I have some time to think about it while it cycles.
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Here goes some closer up pics from first day setup. I just got to tired to pay them other night. Bit I know yall all love pics so here they go.

fts of right side of tank


close up of right side of tank. Anarchis in back corner Ludwig broad leaf front and of course Nemo and flounder cause they belong in a freshwaterautolinker.com autolinking image tank lol


fts of left side of tank

close up of left side of tank. Back corner cabomba front an Anubis of some sort and to the center it was listed as a cork screw sword. Also squirt is in there to but I kinda cut him off in the pic

close up of front of tank. Perfectly orchestrated by Sebastian. To very left of him is a small grouping of crypt wendit and you can see the corkscrew sword little better. And to the left of the sword you can see the red arrow head Lilly bulb I planted.

top down shot you can see I just put the Anubis into a nook on the drift wood and hoping it will attach itself there. I also did that with the Java fern to a nook higher up on the wood. But I think I might switch them and put Anubis higher up and the Java fern on lower piece of wood
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Ok so ii forgot to wipe down inside tank with vinegar so now o have all these admitting micro bubbles all over the glass. How can I get them off. I wiped them off with my hand in tank but they seemed to come back. Should I use a paper towel and do that or am I gonna have to empty tank for that.
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The footprint of the column tanks make them look really sleek, but present issues for stocking. Most fish use and need the length of a tank rather than the height. For sure, the congo tetras would be too large for that tank, as well as the shark and I think even the pleco. For the puffers, seriouslyfish recommends a tank of 47" in length

Colomesus asellus ? Amazon Puffer (Cheilichthys asellus, Chelichthys asellus) ? Seriously Fish

Smaller tetras may be your best bet or even some of the micro fish if you are to stock in proper sized schools.
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Man really don't think I could do the congos there my favorite tetra. I know I'd rather have a tank with length. But this is supposed to divide my living room from kids play area and wifeel asked don't they make like a column tank. And I said sure they do and was able to get this tank with in a week of her asking. When we first moved in her she only wanted the original turtle tank from the old house and no more tanks. So hence the column tank.

What other micro schoolers are out there. I don't care to much for most other tetras. I was thinking harlequin rasboras maybe some cardinals. I definitely still want to do the panda cories. I guess maybe instead of the pleco I could do a bunch of otto cats.
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Re: New 47 gallon column planted build

I agree such a tall tank will present issues with stocking, as you dont have a ton of side to side room. Especially schooling fish, as they really dont have anywhere to school to.

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Well my in line heater came in yesterday. So I'm about to set up the aquatop filter. But my question is should I run the activated carbon in the filter tray? This canister comes with 3 trays. First one just had the course blue sponge and poly filter pad them second tray had poly filter pad and spec to be carbon But I was thinking of put the matrix in there. And then 3rd tray has poly filter pad and there bio balls. Our should I not use nothing but there pads in first and third tray and in second trat all the matrix
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Yive just heard carbon will strip water of stuff plants could be using. That's why I'm thinking switch carbon for matrix and then stuff 2 poly filter pads in third tray or just leave it with pad matrix and pad bio balls?
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Actually I do have 2 liters worth of matrix so I could just do 2nd and 3rd Try filled with matrix and just keep carbon for when I need to actually clean something or of water. Cause not like any thing is in there that needs to be removed. And matrix is a lot better then bio balls. I mean they serve same purpose but Matrix had more surface area to use then the bio balls.

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