What Type of Angel is this?

Fish-Hed · 10-29-2011, 02:57 PM

Hi,

Got them from a local place that has a large variety, healthy fish, but lacks in labeling species and customer service.
Hoping someone can give me the proper name of these little beauties

They are about 1.5 inches long (if it helps).

Thanks

majerah1 · 10-29-2011, 03:27 PM

Looks marbled to me.

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 04:09 PM

I'd say he/she would be a Orange Koi marble.. Bill

alyssabentley · 10-29-2011, 04:28 PM

Marbled or Orange Koi Marbled (depending on whether the gleam of orange is the lighting, or their actual color), as they said. I would add that they look like standard fin angels rather than veils.

ArtyG · 10-29-2011, 04:43 PM

They are marble/koi mix that have been raised in too small a space thus stunting the dorsal fins, etc. If you put them in a large enough tank , at least a 40, they may grow out normally as they age.

Lest I forget, the proper name is Pterophyllum scalare. There is a lot of angel info available on line , start with Wikipedia. .

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 05:07 PM

It just hit me.. I belong to a number forums and there is always a write up on how to embed pics within messages... Didn't find one here!....
But about the fins, dorsal in particular?.. I'm rearing only two from the last batch of my "stud".. The two I salvaged.. Hurricane & Power-outage & and yet another power outage.. well they are in a 155 and their dorsals are almost as tall as their body depth plus bottom fins!... I'd post the pics here if I knew how!.. Bill in Va.

Fish-Hed · 10-29-2011, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtyG

They are marble/koi mix that have been raised in too small a space thus stunting the dorsal fins, etc. If you put them in a large enough tank , at least a 40, they may grow out normally as they age.

Lest I forget, the proper name is Pterophyllum scalare. There is a lot of angel info available on line , start with Wikipedia. .

Excellent info, Arty! They are in a 55G. I plan to start a 125g sometime next year.

Fish-Hed · 10-29-2011, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williemcd

It just hit me.. I belong to a number forums and there is always a write up on how to embed pics within messages... Didn't find one here!....
But about the fins, dorsal in particular?.. I'm rearing only two from the last batch of my "stud".. The two I salvaged.. Hurricane & Power-outage & and yet another power outage.. well they are in a 155 and their dorsals are almost as tall as their body depth plus bottom fins!... I'd post the pics here if I knew how!.. Bill in Va.

Real easy!

1. Photobucket and start a free account
2. Upload pics and obtain links
3. Place the links between {IMG}and{/IMG} (only dont use "{" use "[") & post.

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 05:38 PM

My forum and a few I belong to allow direct posting from your own pc into the message... It's clunky but does work.. Bill in Va.

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 05:41 PM

Here is the write up I did for my forum...
http://aquaticfriendsunited.********...s-from-your-pc

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 05:42 PM

http://aquaticfriendsunited.forumotion dot com/t447-embedding-pics-from-your-pc
This doesn't like directlinks.. Bill in Va.

Alasse · 10-29-2011, 06:04 PM

Run of the mill, black marble standard fin

I had a female adult, i seen her parents, they too were black marbles

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 06:07 PM

Al.. you don't see any koi coloration towards the dorsal in it?. the yellow/orange?.. Perhaps ya might wanna check your monitor.. Bill in Va.

Alasse · 10-29-2011, 06:12 PM

I have no need to recheck i know what i am seeing thanks

From the Angelfish Society
CLICK HERE

Quote:

Some marbles will also exhibit gold on the crown

So having orange does not mean it is koi crossed :D

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 06:19 PM

So maybe you need to go check in with an eye doctor... Hell with it.. I'll post an off spring you'd say was a standard "run of the mill marble" and the daddy .. I just have no value in sanctimonious people...... Bill McDonald, Richmond Va.

Alasse · 10-29-2011, 06:23 PM

A pic of my female (closest to front), chances are what your little guys will grow into, or similar

He parents were both marbles

Alasse · 10-29-2011, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williemcd

So maybe you need to go check in with an eye doctor... Hell with it.. I'll post an off spring you'd say was a standard "run of the mill marble" and the daddy .. I just have no value in sanctimonious people...... Bill McDonald, Richmond Va.

There is no need to be rude just because we dont agree.

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 06:30 PM

Nor is there any need to discount 3 others opinions when they differ from your opinion..
Nice Koi/Marble ya have there!.. Bill in Va.

In my album there are now 3 photo's, two of the spawning parents and one of the young adult at 8 months.. The young adult that I'm sure would be declared as "standard run of the mill" angel by someone on here.. Bill Still in Va. ..

Alasse · 10-29-2011, 06:36 PM

I added my view, others added theirs, you on the otherhand needed to be rude to point out yours.

I've also added proof to back up my statement
http://theangelfishsociety.org/artic...ther good link

The OP can make up there own mind.

My angel is Marble, i have seen where it came from, but you go ahead and believe what you will, lol

I'll go with the knowledgable people who know their genetics.

williemcd · 10-29-2011, 06:50 PM

And you Al...discounting the opinion of three others, dismissively declaring them as "run of the mill" isn't rude?.. Perhaps here in the US we are not as elitist.. Go check my photos.. Pop is an Orange Koi Marble.. Mom is a F1 Silver.. You'd never know the offspring came from those two.. Bill in Va.

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williemcd williemcd's Photo Gallery Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 313 My location Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 4 Times Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 78 Times in 77 Posts	Re: What Type of Angel is this? So maybe you need to go check in with an eye doctor... Hell with it.. I'll post an off spring you'd say was a standard "run of the mill marble" and the daddy .. I just have no value in sanctimonious people...... Bill McDonald, Richmond Va. __________________ 12 Tanks, 900 gallons. Discus/Angels/Malawi/Lake Victorias. Just added a 135 & 2 - 29's..

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Alasse Alasse's Photo Gallery Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 573 Name: Rebecca Location: Cambooya QLD My location Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 136 Times Said "Thanks" 38 Times Was Thanked 124 Times in 111 Posts	Re: What Type of Angel is this? A pic of my female (closest to front), chances are what your little guys will grow into, or similar He parents were both marbles __________________ 1x350L Goldfish, 1x 286L Planted, 1x190L Cherry shrimp, 1x140L Feeders, 1x130L Planted, 1x119L Peppermint BN breeding colony

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williemcd williemcd's Photo Gallery Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 313 My location Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 4 Times Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 78 Times in 77 Posts	Re: What Type of Angel is this? Nor is there any need to discount 3 others opinions when they differ from your opinion.. Nice Koi/Marble ya have there!.. Bill in Va. In my album there are now 3 photo's, two of the spawning parents and one of the young adult at 8 months.. The young adult that I'm sure would be declared as "standard run of the mill" angel by someone on here.. Bill Still in Va. .. __________________ 12 Tanks, 900 gallons. Discus/Angels/Malawi/Lake Victorias. Just added a 135 & 2 - 29's..

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Alasse Alasse's Photo Gallery Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 573 Name: Rebecca Location: Cambooya QLD My location Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 136 Times Said "Thanks" 38 Times Was Thanked 124 Times in 111 Posts	Re: What Type of Angel is this? I added my view, others added theirs, you on the otherhand needed to be rude to point out yours. I've also added proof to back up my statement http://theangelfishsociety.org/artic...ther good link The OP can make up there own mind. My angel is Marble, i have seen where it came from, but you go ahead and believe what you will, lol I'll go with the knowledgable people who know their genetics. __________________ 1x350L Goldfish, 1x 286L Planted, 1x190L Cherry shrimp, 1x140L Feeders, 1x130L Planted, 1x119L Peppermint BN breeding colony

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williemcd williemcd's Photo Gallery Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 313 My location Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 4 Times Said "Thanks" 3 Times Was Thanked 78 Times in 77 Posts	Re: What Type of Angel is this? And you Al...discounting the opinion of three others, dismissively declaring them as "run of the mill" isn't rude?.. Perhaps here in the US we are not as elitist.. Go check my photos.. Pop is an Orange Koi Marble.. Mom is a F1 Silver.. You'd never know the offspring came from those two.. Bill in Va. __________________ 12 Tanks, 900 gallons. Discus/Angels/Malawi/Lake Victorias. Just added a 135 & 2 - 29's..

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