Aquarium Forum
Advertise
Saltwater Do It Yourself Discuss all saltwater and reef related DIY projects, tips, questions, and ideas here.

Go Back   Aquarium Forum Saltwater and Reefs Saltwater Do It Yourself

Forgot Password?
Connect with Facebook

Welcome to the Aquarium Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.
Connect with Facebook
OR

Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 16, 03-02-2012.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-27-2011, 04:38 PM   #61 (permalink)
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 4
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Hi

I think a solution similar to this



you can see the "tower" on the left and on the right.

the cap has a thread and is screwed so you can open and inspect the inside of the tube; moreover on the cap there is a no return valve.

I think this could be a good idea.

Just a question for you: I saw that all american diy overflow pipe are made with white pvc; here in Italy I found only gray pvc.
what kind of pvc do you use?

bye
zio tonino is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To zio tonino

Join AquariumForum.com Today - It's Free!

Are you an aquarium enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

AquariumForum.com is owned and operated by fellow lifelong aquarium enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join AquariumForum.com Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 02-28-2011, 09:20 AM   #62 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Quote:
Originally Posted by zio tonino View Post
Hi

I think a solution similar to this



you can see the "tower" on the left and on the right.

the cap has a thread and is screwed so you can open and inspect the inside of the tube; moreover on the cap there is a no return valve.

I think this could be a good idea.

Just a question for you: I saw that all american diy overflow pipe are made with white pvc; here in Italy I found only gray pvc.
what kind of pvc do you use?

bye
Looks like that would work.

The removing the cap will allow the functions I used with the Purple nillple labeled "primer" on the original drawing.

Some have used grey pvc here so that should work as well.

Depending on space I would "flatten" it out so the drain is flat against the aquarium glass. That way there will be less twisting on the tank top and back glass.

But I think you have a workable system.


my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 04-21-2011, 08:03 AM   #63 (permalink)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

This system that is depicted in the animation works awesome BUT...I have a flow rate issue. Tables show that my Eheim 1250 is flowing about 165gph at 4' of head and it is way more water then the down pipe can handle.
I made my down pipe with 1 1/2" I.D. PVC.

I figure there are 3 ways to solve this issue:
1) Get a smaller pump with less flow rate
2) Make a second down pipe system or make another one with a larger I.D.
3) put a dimmer switch for a light fixture in-line with the pump power to slow down the impeller.

I am thinking option 3 will be the cheapest and will allow me to 'dial-in' the flow rate. There is no need for me to cycle my 55 gallon tank 3 times in an hour.
Any thoughts?
Machine1515 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Machine1515
Old 04-21-2011, 09:33 AM   #64 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine1515 View Post
This system that is depicted in the animation works awesome BUT...I have a flow rate issue. Tables show that my Eheim 1250 is flowing about 165gph at 4' of head and it is way more water then the down pipe can handle.
I made my down pipe with 1 1/2" I.D. PVC.

I figure there are 3 ways to solve this issue:
1) Get a smaller pump with less flow rate
2) Make a second down pipe system or make another one with a larger I.D.
3) put a dimmer switch for a light fixture in-line with the pump power to slow down the impeller.

I am thinking option 3 will be the cheapest and will allow me to 'dial-in' the flow rate. There is no need for me to cycle my 55 gallon tank 3 times in an hour.
Any thoughts?
1 1/2 pvc should have no problem handling that flow rate.

I say build it and test it out.

my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 04-21-2011, 09:42 AM   #65 (permalink)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 3
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

On second thought...Changing the speed of the pump would drastically affect its efficiency. Maybe diverting some of the flow is the answer?

Machine1515 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Machine1515
Sponsors

Old 04-21-2011, 09:47 AM   #66 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Machine1515 View Post
On second thought...Changing the speed of the pump would drastically affect its efficiency. Maybe diverting some of the flow is the answer?

as I remember HOB overflow boxes with 1" diameter U tubes are rated over 600 gallons/hour.

So as I said just build it. It should work just fine.

my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Old 05-16-2011, 02:42 PM   #67 (permalink)
wimpyreef's Avatar
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 42
Name: Daniel
Location: Toronto, Ontario...CANADA !!! :D
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 25 Times
Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Quote:
Originally Posted by aspects View Post
that would drain the entire system on shut down, and the overflow would lose its prime.
in the case of a short power outage, this means when the power comes back on, the overflow will not be functional, and all the water from your sump would flow into the tank, and on to your floor
would be a disaster I wouldn't want to come home to.

I Looked into non-drilled overflows using a configuration of pipes, and all i came back with was to get ma dam tank drilled!

Its seems a hell of a lot easier?..no?

But to my defense...all i did was google and youtube for a few mins until i got the "cave man look" like huh???

Which method do ya'll think is better or prefer - drilled or over the tank siphoning?

Is it worth the trouble really?

Last edited by wimpyreef : 05-16-2011 at 07:40 PM.
wimpyreef is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To wimpyreef
Old 06-16-2011, 03:05 PM   #68 (permalink)
Welcome Wagon
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,325
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 339 Times
Said "Thanks" 32 Times
Was Thanked 835 Times in 761 Posts
Default Re: pvc overflow

Quote:
Originally Posted by wimpyreef View Post
would be a disaster I wouldn't want to come home to.

I Looked into non-drilled overflows using a configuration of pipes, and all i came back with was to get ma dam tank drilled!

Its seems a hell of a lot easier?..no?

But to my defense...all i did was google and youtube for a few mins until i got the "cave man look" like huh???

Which method do ya'll think is better or prefer - drilled or over the tank siphoning?

Is it worth the trouble really?
Way late on this but drilling existing tanks especially the bottom glass is extremely dangerous. Because it is probably tempered and will shatter.

I have hear some tank side glass is not tempered and can be drilled.

Either way I would recommend the hang on syphon designs here.

If your tank is already drilled it might be better looking to use the existing holes. Plus some like eliminating the possibility of breaking siphon.

On the other hand using power head(s) to suck out air in the HOB part prevents the siphon loss. Plus the hob overflow can be easily taken off the tank for inspection and cleaning.

my .02
__________________
fw leiden since 1979, fo salt since 1979, mixed reef 55g 2002-2009. Strong emphasis on the tank taking care of itself. Balanced with plant life, no water changes, tap water, no filters in FW. Only dosing calcium, alk, mag in marine reef tanks. http://www.aquariumforum.com/f15/my-...ods-26410.html
recent tanks (till 2009) 7 years- 10g FW leiden 7 yrs, 55g mixed reef 7, 2 yrs, 20g FW leiden, 10 g fw leiden , 29g mixed reef, current tank 55g leiden
beaslbob is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To beaslbob
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:12 AM.





Fish Topsites
Follow us on Twitter!
Alltop, confirmation that we kick ass

All content Copyright © AquariumForum.com & the respective author. All Rights Reserved.
Disclaimer: We are not responsible for the content of any post or thread. This is a public forum and the content posted does not reflect the opinions of nor are endorsed by AquariumForum.com nor any of our employees.