Do you use a canister, a pump, or both?

Stephjls · 09-18-2011, 02:13 PM

I'm trying to decide on what to do with my 75g saltwater set up I am going to have.

So, what do you use? A sump/canister, or both? What type is it, and what do you love/hate about it?

Opinions on what I should use are defaniately welcomed

AZDesertRat · 09-18-2011, 03:32 PM

For a reef system go with the sump and refugium. If its a fish only system a canister or wet/dry system would work.

Stephjls · 09-18-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDesertRat

For a reef system go with the sump and refugium. If its a fish only system a canister or wet/dry system would work.

Any model of canister you'd suggest in particular?

joeyhatch11 · 09-18-2011, 05:48 PM

Go to TruAqua.com and check out the CF-500. It does 525gph and is a 3 stage system. Im currently using the CF-300 on my 40g breeder and LOVE it

Stephjls · 09-18-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyhatch11

Go to TruAqua.com and check out the CF-500. It does 525gph and is a 3 stage system. Im currently using the CF-300 on my 40g breeder and LOVE it

Wow, its pretty cheap on there! Would you suggest this for a 75gal stocked with live rock/fish? I'm new, so I am learning as I go, so excuse my noobish questions.

I feel like a canister will be so easy to set up and work, but I am torn because I feel like a sump will be better for the tank and live rock.

AZDesertRat · 09-18-2011, 07:51 PM

Live rock, substrate and a sump with a protein skimmer and refugium will always be the better choice, especially if you think you may one day add corals as often turns out to be the case.
Many of us have no mechanical filtration at all, the live rock and substrate and sump with its addiional water volume, skimmer and refugium provide all the natural filtration we need. Mechanical filters need to be cleaned frequently to keep nitrates in check but for fish only nitrates really are not as much an issue as with corals.

joeyhatch11 · 09-18-2011, 08:05 PM

I've read and been told that a canister system is only good on tanks 10-40 that'll be fish only with live rock, no corals. on anything bigger than a 40 you'll wanna take the time and get a sump set up and running. At least that way you'll know your tank will be 100%. Also as mentioned, some where down the line you know you'll want to add some corals and with a canister that's not going to happen, or at least will be a lot to deal with. The guys at the LFS have 29 tanks set up with live rock, corals and fish and are only running a HOB filter and 2 powerheads. They said its possible to do a canister or HOB filters like that on tanks up to 40g but really suggest a sump set up for anything over that. Personally, I wouldnt do a tank over 29g without having a sump set up.

Stephjls · 09-18-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AZDesertRat

Live rock, substrate and a sump with a protein skimmer and refugium will always be the better choice, especially if you think you may one day add corals as often turns out to be the case.
Many of us have no mechanical filtration at all, the live rock and substrate and sump with its addiional water volume, skimmer and refugium provide all the natural filtration we need. Mechanical filters need to be cleaned frequently to keep nitrates in check but for fish only nitrates really are not as much an issue as with corals.

Okay, maybe i'll draw up some plans for a sump instead, and run them by you guys.

I really did like the idea of a Fluval G6, though. Its to bad the reviews didn't exactly sell the product.

Stephjls · 09-18-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by joeyhatch11

I've read and been told that a canister system is only good on tanks 10-40 that'll be fish only with live rock, no corals. on anything bigger than a 40 you'll wanna take the time and get a sump set up and running. At least that way you'll know your tank will be 100%. Also as mentioned, some where down the line you know you'll want to add some corals and with a canister that's not going to happen, or at least will be a lot to deal with. The guys at the LFS have 29 tanks set up with live rock, corals and fish and are only running a HOB filter and 2 powerheads. They said its possible to do a canister or HOB filters like that on tanks up to 40g but really suggest a sump set up for anything over that. Personally, I wouldnt do a tank over 29g without having a sump set up.

Thanks for the advice. I am nervous to build/set up a sump because it just sounds overwhelming, but I do have help. I am going to draw up some plans and run them by you guys! I just need to make sure its big enough not to leak all over my floors! Hahaha

Reefing Madness · 09-18-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephjls

Thanks for the advice. I am nervous to build/set up a sump because it just sounds overwhelming, but I do have help. I am going to draw up some plans and run them by you guys! I just need to make sure its big enough not to leak all over my floors! Hahaha

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joeyhatch11 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 120 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 9 Times Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Do you use a canister, a pump, or both? I've read and been told that a canister system is only good on tanks 10-40 that'll be fish only with live rock, no corals. on anything bigger than a 40 you'll wanna take the time and get a sump set up and running. At least that way you'll know your tank will be 100%. Also as mentioned, some where down the line you know you'll want to add some corals and with a canister that's not going to happen, or at least will be a lot to deal with. The guys at the LFS have 29 tanks set up with live rock, corals and fish and are only running a HOB filter and 2 powerheads. They said its possible to do a canister or HOB filters like that on tanks up to 40g but really suggest a sump set up for anything over that. Personally, I wouldnt do a tank over 29g without having a sump set up.

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