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striker32 · 12-19-2011, 03:29 PM

HI, I just started a new tank 20 gal. that i had to replace for age.

right now i only have my blue lobster in it, i have had him for some time.

I have a problem, he does not seem to be happy in his new tank, keeps trying to climb up the sides, never did that before. I set up the new tank for over 4 days with the filter running and the water was treated.
the lobster is eating fine.
Did I do something wrong?

Summer · 12-19-2011, 03:44 PM

You ran out of chat before i could tell you, run both filters together for a few weeks til the new one gets seeded, but still test your water in case the bacteria in the old filter has died.

SuckMyCichlids · 12-19-2011, 11:25 PM

i would guess he's stressed because its a new tank that hasnt been cycled yet?

TypeYourTextHere · 12-20-2011, 04:11 AM

Please tell me you kept the old filter media. If you had just put in the old filter with the new one you wouldn't have to cycle the tank again.

striker32 · 12-20-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeYourTextHere

Please tell me you kept the old filter media. If you had just put in the old filter with the new one you wouldn't have to cycle the tank again.

Yes i have the old media and placed it in the new filter yesterday, but things are still the same.
Cant run both filters, no room with the hood/light.

SuckMyCichlids · 12-20-2011, 02:45 PM

have you tested your water at all?

Summer · 12-20-2011, 03:31 PM

You need to be testing and doing water changes as needed or you will inevitably kill your fish/lobster. After several days without a bioload and/or out of water teh old filter may not have any live bacteria on it....if that's the case you are looking at cycling all over again.

SuckMyCichlids · 12-20-2011, 04:40 PM

has your crayfish lost any color? those are definet signs of stress, also test for copper along with everything else.

TypeYourTextHere · 12-20-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by striker32

Yes i have the old media and placed it in the new filter yesterday, but things are still the same.
Cant run both filters, no room with the hood/light.

Not to beat a dead horse, but you kept it running in the old tank?

striker32 · 12-20-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Summer

You need to be testing and doing water changes as needed or you will inevitably kill your fish/lobster. After several days without a bioload and/or out of water teh old filter may not have any live bacteria on it....if that's the case you are looking at cycling all over again.

I have kept the old filter in the old tank with the water still in it.

striker32 · 12-20-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeYourTextHere

Not to beat a dead horse, but you kept it running in the old tank?

YES

striker32 · 12-20-2011, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckMyCichlids

has your crayfish lost any color? those are definet signs of stress, also test for copper along with everything else.

NOPE He has lost no color at all, he is a bit calmer now after changing filter media from new to old.

Plus he is spending more time in his cave where it is dark.
do they come out at night at all to eat?

I think i have to get new different food for him, the pelets i have now are the same color as the new gravel, dont know if he is able to find it or not?

SuckMyCichlids · 12-21-2011, 02:05 AM

im guessing that he/she will be more active at night but i dont know a whole lot about crayfish, do you know exactly what kind it is? if its a blue knight lobster than you'll need a bigger tank cause he'll get about 12" long while the hammers cobalt blue lobster only gets 5" and is perfect for that tank, you should vary their diet with a quality sinking pellet, flake food and dried algae.

striker32 · 12-21-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckMyCichlids

im guessing that he/she will be more active at night but i dont know a whole lot about crayfish, do you know exactly what kind it is? if its a blue knight lobster than you'll need a bigger tank cause he'll get about 12" long while the hammers cobalt blue lobster only gets 5" and is perfect for that tank, you should vary their diet with a quality sinking pellet, flake food and dried algae.

How do i tell what kind it is?
I do give him sinking pellets, flake food and algae wafers.
no matter what it is its still smalL enough for this tank.

I'm thinking on adding a BLOOD RED PARROT FISH WITH HIM

WILL THEY HARM EACHOTHER AT ALL?

SuckMyCichlids · 12-21-2011, 03:20 PM

im not sure exactly how you'd tell but i would cruise the internet looking for pics that best represent what yours looks like.

please dont put a blood red parrot in a 20g with a crayfish.... the parrot can get upwards of 8" long

striker32 · 12-21-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckMyCichlids

im not sure exactly how you'd tell but i would cruise the internet looking for pics that best represent what yours looks like.

please dont put a blood red parrot in a 20g with a crayfish.... the parrot can get upwards of 8" long

Ok I did not know parrots get that big,

My avatar pic is what my blue lobster looks like to the t

SuckMyCichlids · 12-21-2011, 03:39 PM

if thats the case than good news! lol, he's a hammers cobalt blue lobster and he'll get about 5" long and he'll be fine in that tank, if you wanna put other fish in there with him just make sure that they're not tiny or too slow cause he'll nip at them and probably make lunch out of em, how big is he now? do you have sand or a medium-fine substrate and plants in the tank? they like to burrow and what not

striker32 · 12-21-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckMyCichlids

if thats the case than good news! lol, he's a hammers cobalt blue lobster and he'll get about 5" long and he'll be fine in that tank, if you wanna put other fish in there with him just make sure that they're not tiny or too slow cause he'll nip at them and probably make lunch out of em, how big is he now? do you have sand or a medium-fine substrate and plants in the tank? they like to burrow and what not

I'd say hes about 3" now, I have a medium- substrate tan in color, NO PLANTS, have a mountain house where he stays in it, he digs the gravel all around it and goes in from the bottom

i'm worried that he cant find his pallets because they are the same color as the gravel

SuckMyCichlids · 12-21-2011, 07:47 PM

maybe he's just choosing to ignore the pellets? try putting acouple right in front of him and see if he goes for them, if he doesnt even look at it i'd see if i could find another good pellet foor for him

striker32 · 12-21-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckMyCichlids

maybe he's just choosing to ignore the pellets? try putting acouple right in front of him and see if he goes for them, if he doesnt even look at it i'd see if i could find another good pellet foor for him

NO He is eating the pellets when i drop them in front of him.

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SuckMyCichlids Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 465 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 125 Times Said "Thanks" 97 Times Was Thanked 118 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Start New Tank has your crayfish lost any color? those are definet signs of stress, also test for copper along with everything else. __________________ 10g- 2 hi-fin fm platys, 3 koi & red wag sword fry 40g Breeder- 6 danios, 4 female swords, 1 male swords "I was born with nothin and I still got most of it left."- Seasick Steve

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SuckMyCichlids Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 465 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 125 Times Said "Thanks" 97 Times Was Thanked 118 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Start New Tank im guessing that he/she will be more active at night but i dont know a whole lot about crayfish, do you know exactly what kind it is? if its a blue knight lobster than you'll need a bigger tank cause he'll get about 12" long while the hammers cobalt blue lobster only gets 5" and is perfect for that tank, you should vary their diet with a quality sinking pellet, flake food and dried algae. __________________ 10g- 2 hi-fin fm platys, 3 koi & red wag sword fry 40g Breeder- 6 danios, 4 female swords, 1 male swords "I was born with nothin and I still got most of it left."- Seasick Steve

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SuckMyCichlids Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 465 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Welcome to Aquarium Forum" 125 Times Said "Thanks" 97 Times Was Thanked 118 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Start New Tank maybe he's just choosing to ignore the pellets? try putting acouple right in front of him and see if he goes for them, if he doesnt even look at it i'd see if i could find another good pellet foor for him __________________ 10g- 2 hi-fin fm platys, 3 koi & red wag sword fry 40g Breeder- 6 danios, 4 female swords, 1 male swords "I was born with nothin and I still got most of it left."- Seasick Steve

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