Question about tap water.

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 08:39 AM

Ok, I filled my 27g tank with tap water last friday, and its been cycling since. No fish in it yet.

I don't have any dechlor to add to the water, but what I want to know is if the water needs dechlor still, even though its been cycling for 4 days (over a week before I add any fish)

I've bought some Prime dechlor just incase.

Should I still put dechlor in it? or will the chlorine disappear on its own?

Cheers.

beaslbob · 01-17-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

Ok, I filled my 27g tank with tap water last friday, and its been cycling since. No fish in it yet.

I don't have any dechlor to add to the water, but what I want to know is if the water needs dechlor still, even though its been cycling for 4 days (over a week before I add any fish)

I've bought some Prime dechlor just incase.

Should I still put dechlor in it? or will the chlorine disappear on its own?

Cheers.

I would highly recommend you do a planted tank before you add fish.

the chlorine/chlorimine will be gone in 4-5 days.

my .02

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 08:52 AM

I have a few pieces of bogwood rinsing in a bucket, to get the tannin out. Once its ready to go in the tank, I will be attaching some java moss to it, hopefully it will grow into the wood.

What other plants would be I be able to put straight in the tank now?

susankat · 01-17-2012, 09:01 AM

Chloramine does not dissapate from the water, if your water co is using that you would have to use dechlorinator.

beaslbob · 01-17-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

I have a few pieces of bogwood rinsing in a bucket, to get the tannin out. Once its ready to go in the tank, I will be attaching some java moss to it, hopefully it will grow into the wood.

What other plants would be I be able to put straight in the tank now?

I would get the bogwood and java moss in the tank and established before adding fish. If for no other reason so it will attach to the wood.

I use peat moss to keep kh and gh in line but from what I understand bogwood will have much the same effect.

I use (10g tank) 4-6 bunches of anacharis, 4-6 vals, 4-6 small potted plants (cypts, small swords) and a single amazon sword on my tanks.

In new tanks the anacharis are very good at keeping things in line. Then slower growing plants get established and help with longer term balance and stability.

but it sure sound like you are on the right path.

best tank over.

and as usual just my.

da ta

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jrman83 · 01-17-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

Ok, I filled my 27g tank with tap water last friday, and its been cycling since. No fish in it yet.

I don't have any dechlor to add to the water, but what I want to know is if the water needs dechlor still, even though its been cycling for 4 days (over a week before I add any fish)

I've bought some Prime dechlor just incase.

Should I still put dechlor in it? or will the chlorine disappear on its own?

Cheers.

Just don't mix the term cycling with the nitrogen cycle. When people ask if your tank is cycled, this is referring to the nitrogen cycle. Your tank will not start the nitrogen cycle until you add an ammonia source (fish). Also, there is no need to let your tank run empty for long periods of time.

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 09:55 AM

I will look at getting some of those plants at my local fish store, I really like the look of that grass type plant that you put into the sand, not sure its called...

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jrman83

Just don't mix the term cycling with the nitrogen cycle. When people ask if your tank is cycled, this is referring to the nitrogen cycle. Your tank will not start the nitrogen cycle until you add an ammonia source (fish). Also, there is no need to let your tank run empty for long periods of time.

I see, so I could technically add dechlor to my tank now, and add 1 or 2 fish along with some plants/bogwood to start the nitrogen cycle?

beaslbob · 01-17-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

I will look at getting some of those plants at my local fish store, I really like the look of that grass type plant that you put into the sand, not sure its called...

Be sure to get the solid green type not the types that have white in them.

For a grass like plant I recommend various forms of Vallisneria (which I shorten to vals because I can remember how to spell it.

)

they spread by runners and do very will.

But still not as effective as anacharis in the immediate initial tank conditioning. But still very good.

my .02

beaslbob · 01-17-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

I see, so I could technically add dechlor to my tank now, and add 1 or 2 fish along with some plants/bogwood to start the nitrogen cycle?

I would let the plants get established and wait a week before adding fish and not use dechlor.

I also do no water changes just replace water that evaporates. Which allows me to not use any chemicals at all.

my .02

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 10:08 AM

ok, so I will wait till this bogwood finishes rinsing, and ill put it in the tank along with some java moss, and perhaps 1 or 2 other plants, leave for a week, then i'll add 1 or 2 fish.

beaslbob · 01-17-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AndehX

ok, so I will wait till this bogwood finishes rinsing, and ill put it in the tank along with some java moss, and perhaps 1 or 2 other plants, leave for a week, then i'll add 1 or 2 fish.

Good plan.

I use more then 1 or 2 plants though. for a 10g I use 4-6 bunches of anacharis, 4-6 vals, 4 small potted plants and an amazon sword.

After a week I add one fish and not add food for a week.

Just to give you an idea.

my .02

jrman83 · 01-17-2012, 10:15 AM

Use dechlor unless you are on a well system. There is no reason to not use it. The new bacteria you need to grow will not grow with it in there.

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 10:44 AM

Well I have 2 filters on my tank, both are brand new, so theres no worries of killing any bacteria or anything. I plan on modifying them with an air supply, and some k1 biological media. They will be fairly noisy, but I don't mind hypnotising hum of a healthy aquarium

Summer · 01-17-2012, 11:46 AM

There is a sticky here on teh fishless cycle. What this entails is adding ammonia from a bottle to start the cycle, and a lot of waiting to sum it up in a few words. The key point of this is to avoid harm to fish. Regardless, fishless or fish in, you will be waiting 3-6 weeks for the tank to finish cycling. The fishless just means that you cant kill anything in the process.

majerah1 · 01-17-2012, 11:53 AM

As mentioned above several times a dechlor will benefit you alot especially if you do not know whats in your water system.Be sure when adding plants to research what you are planning on getting before you but or you may end up with something non aquatic,or with higher needs than you can provide right off.

AndehX · 01-17-2012, 12:05 PM

ok, so I did the right thing by buying dechlor, thats what i wanted to hear :P

Hooperman42 · 01-24-2012, 07:21 PM

Ive always used stress coat and love it. why not use dechlor?

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