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I have a pretty nice 5g that has an over powered filter. I want to know what a good kind of fish other than a Betta that would do well in it.
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Are you using a heater? Also an over powered filter may be stressing your betta. They like a very slow current.

But in general a group of 5 or 6 white clouds would do well. You can click on the link I provided to learn more about the clouds.
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Are you using a heater? Also an over powered filter may be stressing your betta. They like a very slow current.

But in general a group of 5 or 6 white clouds would do well. You can click on the link I provided to learn more about the clouds.
I think he wants to know what he can get besides a betta.

Anywho I would suggest snails, shrimp, or a betta. Nothing else is really suited for a 5 gallon tank.
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Oh I see. Endler's Livebearers would work well. You could also do some shell dwellers a pair of Brevis or small group of Multies. Could also breed some apisto cacatoides etc.
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I have a pretty nice 5g that has an over powered filter. I want to know what a good kind of fish other than a Betta that would do well in it.
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Plant that puppy and throw off some shrimp in there!Shrimp are pretty fun to wathc darting about,and nomming things.
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Oh I see. Endler's Livebearers would work well. You could also do some shell dwellers a pair of Brevis or small group of Multies. Could also breed some apisto cacatoides etc.
Any of these fish the op would be asking for trouble. None are suited for anything smaller than a 20 gal except maybe 5 male endlers.
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Oh I see. Endler's Livebearers would work well. You could also do some shell dwellers a pair of Brevis or small group of Multies. Could also breed some apisto cacatoides etc.
Apisto's are you kidding me..those fish get 2 + inches..i know i have them and i keep one in a 20 gal minimum..5 or 6 clelstial pearl danios would work nice..very pretty fish and are very active...what ever you decide please just do your research on the fish..

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I would be hesitant using this section of the site as I don't agree with most of the suggestions based on some normal fish keeping standards
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You could have a nice community with snails, shrimp, and possibly a sparkling gourami or a betta. You'd have to do something to alter the flow (like putting a piece of sponge on the output area) if you want a betta though.

Cherry shrimp, or any of the neocardinias (cherry, fire, painted fire red, orange, yellow, green, blue jelly, blue pearls, ect) are very tough, and multiply well. They show up brilliantly against live plants, and are fun to watch on their own.
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That seems a bit harsh and out of context, but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. I feel obligated to point out that the post you quoted was from someone who got bad advice at his LFS. No one from fishchannel.com gave him that advice. And that particular OP was asking for advice, not giving it. I've read similar comments at aquariumforum.com, yet I don't feel the need to publically warn people to be hesitant about using this site. *sigh* Did you go on to read the other comments that included appropriate suggestions for a 5-gallon tank? That said, fishchannel.com, IMO, is a legitimate aquaria website. And ironically, fishchannel.com is where I discovered aquariumforum.com


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I would be hesitant using this site as I will quote one of the comments I found on the first page.

hi guys i have a 5 gal tank and have 18 fish in it the pet shop told me it was fine and they all get along great some of my fish even include bala shark and 3 clown loaches they have all stayed very small no longer than 10 cm my smallest fish are the neon tetra's and rummy nose but i do feel i should get a better tank can anyone suggest a good size
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That makes me worrisome at some of the advice these people are giving/getting.

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Easy you two. As long as OP gets the information they need on here, there's no need to get into it about other sites.

BTW OP, live plants, have you tried them? they're amazing
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That seems a bit harsh and out of context, but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. I feel obligated to point out that the post you quoted was from someone who got bad advice at his LFS. No one from fishchannel.com gave him that advice. And that particular OP was asking for advice, not giving it. I've read similar comments at aquariumforum.com, yet I don't feel the need to publically warn people to be hesitant about using this site. *sigh* Did you go on to read the other comments that included appropriate suggestions for a 5-gallon tank? That said, fishchannel.com, IMO, is a legitimate aquaria website. And ironically, fishchannel.com is where I discovered aquariumforum.com
I found this site rather interesting, lots of good suggestions sounds like most people were stocking there 5 gallon just fine, and the guy with 18 fish did say he knows he needs a bigger tank and was looking for some advice from others so he was on the right path there.

That said I like the Shrimp idea but the overpowered filter might make the breeding hard, you would have to find a way to baffle it so the tiny little ones dont get sucked up.
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That seems a bit harsh and out of context, but you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. I feel obligated to point out that the post you quoted was from someone who got bad advice at his LFS. No one from fishchannel.com gave him that advice. And that particular OP was asking for advice, not giving it. I've read similar comments at aquariumforum.com, yet I don't feel the need to publically warn people to be hesitant about using this site. *sigh* Did you go on to read the other comments that included appropriate suggestions for a 5-gallon tank? That said, fishchannel.com, IMO, is a legitimate aquaria website. And ironically, fishchannel.com is where I discovered aquariumforum.com
To the original op I urge you not to use that section website and instead go by the suggestions made to you in this posting. The reasoning is because that section of the website is not a good source, most of those builds require a 10 gallon setup. Shrimp are fun and active and very fun to watch. Do not rule out beta fish, they are personable and you can get some really beautiful ones. Your other option is a snail, they are also interesting to watch even if it may not seem like it at first.

Also sidenote: @Goby sent you a pm so that I nor yourself, get in trouble for going off topic, as it is better to discuss the topic of that website via pm.
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To the original op I urge you not to use that website and instead go by the suggestions made to you in this posting. The reasoning is because the website is not a good source, most of those builds require a 10 gallon setup. Shrimp are fun and active and very fun to watch. Do not rule out beta fish, they are personable and you can get some really beautiful ones. Your other option is a snail, they are also interesting to watch even if it may not seem like it at first.

Also sidenote: @Goby sent you a pm so that I nor yourself, get in trouble for going off topic, as it is better to discuss the topic of that website via pm.
@jbrown5217- No need for the PM, rather I'll make it easy for everyone. I'll stop posting on aquariumforum.com. But before I go I'd like to say that I chose this forum, as my first aquaria forum, because it seemed a bit cozier than some of the others...somewhat smaller...a place where I could come, leave my stresses behind for a few minutes each day, talk to others who understood my passion for everything underwater, and share my 30+ years of experience in not just the hobby, but the industry. And while I admit to having had some great online conversations here...some where I learned things, others where I taught things...more and more I’m realizing this is a place that's dominated by a very small group of people with aquariums…that’s it…whose reasons for coming here are not compatible with mine. The bullying, the intimidation, the "it's my way or the highway"...the same people giving the same advice over and over and over whether it applies to an OPs situation or not...the "I know more than you do" attitude...and now we are passing judgement other aquaria websites? Why? Because we disagree with what a few misguided newbies posted in one of their forums? Well if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black! The "regulars" here should be pleased to have a site such as fishchannel.com linked to the Aquarium Forum...but instead you bash them? My observation is that if the self-proclaimed experts of this forum would put as much effort into helping those who seek advice, as they do debating and berating those who share it, a lot more would be accomplished.

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Wow, what happened there, lol. I think everyone should be able to make suggestions and disagree with those suggestions without anyone loosing cool. No one is perfect, no forum is perfect but discussion is what what we learn from.

To the OP, I had a quick look at the page mentioned. By all means use it to get ideas, there are some good suggestions on there but be aware the comments are rather unfiltered so as well as good comments there are some obvious problems in the making.

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I see a tempest in a teapot, or in a 5 gallon tank. Goby, I really appreciate your postings, and I think there are no grounds for anyone attacking them. I see no reason to attack anyone on a fish forum, and I worry about how the tone of some posters gets unnecessarily combative sometimes. Sure, we disagree on ideas and practices, but in the end, we're all just trying to help each other out.

And I hope no one ever keeps Apistogramma in a 5 gallon.
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Um... ok...Anyways! As far as a single Betta, I would go with a female, they have lots of personality and are very friendly. Also I find shrimp very interesting and you could breed some neos. Some snails are cool, others pests, so read up before you buy. I would recommend mystery snails. Live plants are awesome. And what about Dwarf Livebearers, anyone?
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Others have mentioned it but I am a shrimp fan. Red Cherry shrimp are great.
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I just don't like the idea of fish in something with less water than my water change buckets. A 5g tank will only have about 4.2g of water in it when it's set up. But, there are a few fish out there that may do okay in it.

I don't understand the bickering. It is my choice to go anywhere else I want for info. Also my choice to ignore what I read. This site is no different than most out there.
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