This sucks...got a pretty bad case of Ich. Lost half my fish so far. Live plants so meds are out. Running 2 heaters to 85F. 2 more days to go...it's torture. Still cant figure out what stressed my tank out that bad. Lost 12 Cherry Barbs, 1 Gold Nugget Pleco, and 2 Praecox Rainbows.

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72 BOW FRONT
Amiracle sump w/Rio 1700
Custom Built Over Flow by ME

40 BREEDER
2x Aquatech HOB 30/60 Filters

10g
Whisper 10/20

gonna help you out here. 1. I have live plants in all my tanks never stopped me from treating. 2. go pik up Quick cure tm. Should be at LFS. 3. follow directions dosage is normally 1 drop per gallon. Remove carbon from filter. Also with ich you are not treating the fish, you are treating the tank. Ich can't be killed when it's on the fish only when it is free swimming (right after it hatches). Also up ur temp to about 82-84 highest would be 86 dont go any higher. this is because the high temp causes the egg's to hatch faster there for the med's can hit newly hatched freeswimers. Another method of all else fails remove all plants and fish treat in smaller tank. Ich only has 48 hr after it hatch's to find fish/plant if there aren't any it will die. GL

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20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer
25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib.
36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid

I thought about doing just that, using another tank. I just looked at my remaining fish...3 Bolivian Rams, 1 Apisto. Borellii (Blue Steel), 4 Praecox Rianbows, and 2 guppys (these guys were part of the original cycling crew 4 mos ago). A few are/were showing some minor signs. Everyone is very active and eating. Should I wait and see what happens?

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72 BOW FRONT
Amiracle sump w/Rio 1700
Custom Built Over Flow by ME

40 BREEDER
2x Aquatech HOB 30/60 Filters

10g
Whisper 10/20

Your temp needs to get to 89 to kill the protozoa. 84-85 will only stop it from reproducing. Whatever treatment regimen you do, don't stop it until all signs of it have been gone for at least 3 days.

Just checking JR from my understanding the high temp does nothing to stop reproduction actually I believe it speeds it up the by incubating the eggs so they hatch faster. I must do some more research on it to be sure. dealing with ich in cichlid tank still (check cichild journal in cichlid forum) very few spots although my mediation seems to have no effect on it anymore.

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20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer
25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib.
36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid

Higher temp speeds up the cycle. The cycle from being free-floating, to being attached to the fish, releasing from the fish,..... That only requires temps of 75 or above. To kill it must reach 89-90, usually. Temps of 85 or above will stop it from reproducing.

Ahhh.....ok thanks makes sense now. Can fish handle water temp that high (my cichlids) kinda running outa ideas. total time frame I've had the ich is 2 weeks i believe. At least that's visible. Sorry to ask on you're post petey.

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20 Gallon, 6 zebra dinos, 4 green tigers, 3 dojo loach's, 2 blue gourami's, 2 GBR's, 2 bristle plecto's, 2 longfin rosybarbs, 1 syno cat, 1 leopard puffer
25 Gallon, 2 clown loach's, 1 yoyo loach, 1 veil angle, 1 royal plecto, 1 female krib.
36 Gallon bowfront, 1 Green Severum, 2 Auratus, 1 Venustus, 1 Acei, 1 Kenyi, 1 Duboisi, 1 Demasoni, 2 other africans I haven't identified, 2 Pictus Cat, 1 Rainbow shark, 3 tertas, 1 Firemouth cichlid

Here is a quote from the article I read:
"A note to the wary; my Malawi haps and clown loaches endured a temperature of 88F for 10 days with apparent ease. I never detected the slightest hint of distress and the Ich was completely wiped out. One article that I read suggests the temperature be raised to 90�F!"

Ich's a pain in the ace. Medications are iffy, can't salt plants, some heaters don't crank up to 89...

Best luck I've had is Kordon's Ich Plus...the stuff that stains the silicone seals blue. Followed directions, kept lights off and popped in a powerhead almost full blast to agitate water surface and oxygenate water. Plants, dojo loaches and all remaining fish pulled through just fine. Platies even dumped off a few kids in the hornwort, which surprised the heck out of me considering the conditions.

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55 Gallon/Fluval 405/216W Corallife

Over 20 platies - mostly babies hiding in java moss
2 Gold Dojo Loaches
2 Striped Tetras
3 Otos
1 Bushy Nose Pleco

Java Fern
Java Moss
Amazon Sword

The thing is,you need meds with the malachite green,blue or whatever.the qICK cure mentioned above healed my macs and they are fickle when it comes to meds.You can find it at walmart,costs about two or three dollars.Its fine with plants as i have plants in my tanks.Also,many tropical(not goldfish...)fish can withstand water to 90 degrees.A well known betta breeder spawns his bettas in 90 degrees and has had wonderful sucess,and never has ich issues because of the temp.The parasite simply cannot thrive in the temp.Some plants can deal with salt to a small degree.Good luck to ya.Ick is a pain if you dont know how to fix it.

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Ich treatment

89 degrees for 4 weeks, after two weeks at this temp with salt will kill the bacteria and anything free floating in the tank, the last two weeks is just to insure the ich is gone.

i use this method when i get a discus in with ich with 100% success rate. its a time proven method but 3 days wont cut it. its a 4 week process no matter what.

Going 3 days beyond the last sign worked for the time I had to deal with it. My 2 cases weren't severe though and maybe more time is needed for more serious cases. Although it is not recommeded, I used increased heat, salt, and meds together.