is my 55g now high tech.

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 10:33 AM

I just added a little 50 watt electric thingie to my 55g planted goldfish tank.

Does that now make it high tech?

history: Yesterday morning I noticed some streaks on the water surface. Seems there was a 1/32" or so crust of ice on it. Which I broke then added some food.

FWIW the tank is on a screened porch with three sides outside walls and the fourth the screen. It receives direct sunlight in the morning for a few hours. It also has no hood and is the "classic" beaslbob build type tank. Temperatures last night and the night before were around 20F with chill factors under 10.

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 10:46 AM

Might be biofilm. Add some surface agitation like a bubbler, a protein skimmer, or more plants.

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo

Might be biofilm. Add some surface agitation like a bubbler, a protein skimmer, or more plants.

Oh no that would really make it high tech.

my .02

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 11:05 AM

More plants would make it high tech? You should read more. Shame on you Bob!

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 11:06 AM

Also, are you talking about a 50W heater? If so, why do you have one on a goldy tank? They're cold water fish.

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo

Also, are you talking about a 50W heater? If so, why do you have one on a goldy tank? They're cold water fish.

but they're not ice fish.

I meant the bubbler and stuff would make it high tech not the plants.

my .02

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by beaslbob

but they're not ice fish

Are you talking about a pond? Why are you worried about it freezing?

If it's a pond, a bubbler would prevent the pond from freezing solid. Yes, there will be a top sheet of ice, but IME the ice layer at the surface actually insulates the water (similar to a snow cave, kinda counter-intuitive).

Alternatively, you could invest in a tank you could keep in your garage, where there's less chance of it freezing...you'll still need a bubbler though.

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 12:15 PM

it's a 55g tank.

Gee I wonder if aquarium shops would have ice skater statutes for my tank.

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 12:17 PM

Why are you worried about it freezing?

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo

Why are you worried about it freezing?

Because it froze.

(don't want to crack the tank)

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 01:01 PM

Odd. Is your tank in the house? Are you out of power or something?

I still say bubbler

Summer · 01-04-2012, 01:29 PM

His tank is on a porch coz his wife is a meany and doesnt allow him to bring it in. My concern is that goldfish go dormant in the cold, and still feeding them...wont that mess them up? Second worry is that 50 isnt going to do jack poo in a 55 gallon tank.

beaslbob · 01-04-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo

Odd. Is your tank in the house? Are you out of power or something?

I still say bubbler

nawwwww

It's on our covered back porch which has three outside walls and a screen for the 4th wall. about 15 ft x10ft or so.

The porch has power but untill the now nothing electric was in use.

Gizmo · 01-04-2012, 01:38 PM

Bubbler. And a 250W-300W heater

snail · 01-05-2012, 12:08 PM

High tech lol. This is a funny thread, everyone seems lost

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Originally Posted by Summer

that 50 isnt going to do jack poo in a 55 gallon tank.

I'd agree for tropical, but if it's just to keep the ice off won't it do that?

Summer · 01-05-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snail

High tech lol. This is a funny thread, everyone seems lost

I'd agree for tropical, but if it's just to keep the ice off won't it do that?

maybe just barely....but that little heater is going to be overworking I would be concerned about the heater failing or cracking. Especially once the temps REALLY drop. If you must use the smaller heaters could you add another one, one on each side? otherwise the side away from the heater is probably going to have a massive temp difference since theres no water circulation going on

beaslbob · 01-05-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by snail

High tech lol. This is a funny thread, everyone seems lost

I'd agree for tropical, but if it's just to keep the ice off won't it do that?

looks like we have been found out folks.

Tell ya al what. I'll just plug it in when temperature it prediced to be below 30F.

Oh dern manual operation again. Now I have to do something.

worth still .02

Russell · 01-05-2012, 02:33 PM

If you find an aquarium heater with a setting for "defrost" or a thermostat that goes down to 40 degrees please let us know.

FishFlow · 01-05-2012, 02:38 PM

Lol, funny read indeed.

Now, post some pictures!! Don't ya think we would want to see a ice topped glass tank?? :D Or a fish poking it's mouth out of an ice hole for food!

Gizmo · 01-05-2012, 03:28 PM

That would involve Bob getting all high tech again. I swear he's Amish

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