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Old 01-03-2012, 05:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi, my name is bobby and currently been entertaining this wonderful hobby for about 2 months now..

originally i had a 36 bowfront aquarium with the fish i will list now, but I'm sure which is not something new had some typical overstocking problems? (especially when one of my black mollies gave birth to 30 babies in one night) i was so happy.. lol

all in all i was working with about 30 fish (not including the babies) and my fish consisted of the following:

10 neon tetras
3 black mollies
2 gold mollies
3 sunset or sunburst platies
3 rainbow fish (not regular ones don't know the orig name but looks very much like a ornate rainbow..)
1 bala shark
1 albino rainbow shark
1 german blue balloon ram
4 glass cat fish
3 serpai tetras
1 columbian tetra
those were the original.. THAN 2 newly added a bit after died- specifically a blue gourami , goldfish , and the 30 babies... was very sad and moving. BUT, at the same time those 2 (gourami and goldfish were added later and had signs of icy which i only treated when they died).. the reason i added my original stock is because the are the ones i still have with me.

moving forward, after this experience, and treating for ich, i decided to kick the strips for testing and got liquid testing only to discovery ammonia was sky high. i was told it was from to much fish.

neither here or there, i now have an ' upgraded tank ' i bought on craiglist.. its a 55 gallon long with some plants and a stand. i love it. there was one catch, it came with fish. lol

i still have my 36 bow front, but am planning on returning it. what i did was put all the fish of his in there (ill list his soon) and some of mine. not much , specifically 2 serapes (i wanted to keep one) , the one columbian tetra (he's semi aggressive) and the 3 i kept was 3 rose line barbs. yep , they came with 60 bucks of fish!

so my current stock again is the list i listed above minus 2 serapes and the columbian tetra just with 3 rose line barbs. some of the plants died but i added one I'm planning on posting a pic soon.. again i have mainly 2 months of experience but promise you i learned a lot. my question so i don't go on and on is my current stock too much??

heres the list again just incase:


10 neon tetras
3 black mollies
2 gold mollies
3 sunset or sunburst platies
3 rainbow fish (not regular ones don't know the orig name but looks very much like a ornate rainbow..)
1 bala shark
1 albino rainbow shark
1 german blue balloon ram
4 glass cat fish
3 roseline barbs
1 red velvet swordtail.


lol and recently adde, ill confirm my obsession soon... is 6 original siamese algae eaters, as my tank is only 6 days old and was infested (from the seller with BBA) so i went to pacific aquarium in manhattan to buy these guys.. (there babies and already served there purpose!!!)

lastly, in my opinion they/ it don't seem overstocked but just wanna be sure. i am new to this site and any feedback / advice/ help would be greatly appreciated.

best.


ps. planning to add more to learn on topics on substrate and plants.. (as I'm planning to put solid on top of my gravel as opposed to underneath..) just figured it would be best to start from the geco as this question been bothering me.

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Old 01-03-2012, 06:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to the forum.

I'd say you're a good bit overstocked and maybe even have a few potential compatibility issues.

Did you say your tank was only 6 days old? Meaning the fish have only been in there for that long? I hope not. If so, you have a ticking time bomb and you're likely to loose many of those fish. The tank has to start the nitrogen cycle and doesn't do that until an ammonia source has been introduced - what the fish will provide.

Do you have a test kit? One that you can at least test for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph? If you don't, I would suggest getting an API freshwater master test kit. It will have all you need and should be available at your local store.

If you haven't, read up on the nitrogen cycle and you'll know what you're tank will go through. The idea thing to do if you wanted to start right away with fish is to start with 3-4 (for your tank size) and let these fish get your tank completely through the cycle and THEN, start a slow stocking to increase your population.

Good luck! We'll try to help you as you need it. I just hope you are prepared for major water changes.
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Hi and thanks for the prompt response.. this was a used tank !! It's 6 days old in my house but was running till the day I bought it ( which was 6 days ago) I'm even using the same filters he gave me. A fluval 305 and a aquaclear 110. All I did is refill it with water before switching my fish from my tank in there.

Note the tank had gravel and plants already which got a little messy during transportation. Lastly all hos fish were in a bucket and are currently in my 36 bowfront which I'm planning to sell along with his fish.
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ps, to jrman83

also, with that being said, what king of compatibility issues do you speak of??

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also, with that being said, what king of compatibility issues do you speak of??

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Potential issues with your Red Tail Shark or Bala Shark. Possibly the Roselines.

You didn't answer the question about if you had testing equipment.
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hey ... nice point.. (def keep that in mind)

my shark is a bala .. second one (as i listed) is the albinon rainbow shark.

Right now they are pretty much the same size.. I'd say the rose line barbs are pretty much double the size of those 2.

As for the water test results, i only have the liquid testers and my ammonia results (thank gd is 0) .. and my ph is currently between 7.2 and 7.6. actually a bit high i know... i wanna post a pic if someone could show me how i would..

so yeah, this is my story for now. the main reason why aside from logic of my concern with this number is because i wanna next retract all the gravel and soil underneath and redo it to have the soil on top for better planting... lol now that i have these 6 SAE i feel like anythings possible.. please help me make sure i don't get ahead of myself.

Everythings appreciated..

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Welcome! Don't forget fish like tetras are schooling fish, it is usually recommended that you keep at least 6 of each schooling fish. I didn't work out the stocking levels but don't forget to count the adult size of the fish because many fish grow a lot.

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welcome to the board. the liquid tests are the most accurate, I agree that it looks like you are over stocked and some of the fish will grow to be too big for the tank.
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What if I took out the roseline barbs ?? The biggest fish in my tank would be under 3 inches . all my SAE are babies... ( few months old)

THIS is my official current stock in a 55 long with a few plants n lots of hidig places. An aquaclear 110 and a fluval 305 for filteration.

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10 neon tetras 3 black mollies 2 gold mollies 3 sunset or sunburst platies 3 rainbow fish (not regular onesdon'tknow the orig name but looks very much likea ornate rainbow..) 1 bala shark 1 albino rainbow shark 1 german blue balloon ram 4 glass cat fish 3 roseline barbs 1 red velvet swordtail

The 5 new SAE are babies as I do have bba still with this newly bought tank from Craigslist used to upgrade this stock from my 36 bowfront ... It seems fine to me but just dont want ammonia spiking like i had in my last tank ( had only a fluval 206 with white sand , no plants, and no SAE Obv OR the 3 roseline babes as they came with the tank with other fish. ( the other fish are in the bowfront)
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