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Old 10-11-2010, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

I am not a huge fan of intro posts, as my normal forum communities tend to eat those who post intro posts. But hey, the auto-sent private message told me to do so.

My brother-in-law has been promising my daughter a fish tank for 4 months. He has some old, scary looking acrylic ones. The guy was never going to actually do it (he has a tank with no fish, but loads of algae and nasty stuff that has needed cleaning for years.)

Like a stooge, I went to PetSmart, got a 10gal tank with biowheel & filter + heater. The girl tells me 24 hrs is enough run time to get a tank going. Tells me I can load in a bunch of fish right away.

Fortunately, I posted on my normal forum asking if anyone had fish tanks. Unfortunately, my 4 year old was already sold on "new fish tomorrow."

I now have two guppies and a damio. I went to our LFS and also got some of their water to add to my tank. I am hoping these three live long enough to get the tank cycled.

Having already read The Nitrogen Cycle for Dummies, I'm starting to realize that this tank is going to deeply satisfy my inner science nerd.
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Old 10-12-2010, 03:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Congrats for your daughter getting a 10g tank. Remember to not add too much fish at a time. I thinkt he 3 fish is enough until it is cycled. Once it is cycled, you can continue adding 1-3 small fish a week if you choose to. It make take a month or longer to cycle a tank. If you want to speed it up, take some filter media from another healthy mature disease-free well established tank and put it in yours. It is fully saturated with beneficial bacteria that will jump start your cycle. It might even decrease cycling time by 2 weeks. Also, if you're having problems keeping ammonia or nitrite readings down, add some plants called Anarcharis (Elodea), they should be sold at most Petsmart/Petco. They grow fast and suck up ammonia right out of the water, you need a bunch.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Welcome. Good to hear you're up on the cycle. Be sure to pick a liquid-type test kit so you can keep track of what your tank is doing. The majority of us choose the API master kit. It has most all you need to get started. Just stay away from the strips.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I recommend you do a planted tank.

It not only satisfies that science nerdy need but results in an easy to maintain system

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I am thinking of waiting a week or two to add plants. I only have a gravel substrate (this is a starter tank by every definition), but I like the idea of some live plants. I figure once I can see what my water is doing, I will know what I need to add to help balance out the levels.

Or is there something I'm missing here?
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I am thinking of waiting a week or two to add plants. I only have a gravel substrate (this is a starter tank by every definition), but I like the idea of some live plants. I figure once I can see what my water is doing, I will know what I need to add to help balance out the levels.

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You might check out our planted forums here.

To me it is very important to include plants right from the start instead of being an after thought (or to add later).

also some peat moss in the substrate will allow you to keep more varieties of fish.

but that is just me

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Hello and welcome
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You might check out our planted forums here.

To me it is very important to include plants right from the start instead of being an after thought (or to add later).

also some peat moss in the substrate will allow you to keep more varieties of fish.

but that is just me

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So I've actually read some of your posts in the other subfora -- if I want to add peat moss at this point, I would basically need a second tank is the impression that I get. Unless, of course, these fish die a horrid death and I have to start over.

Something tells me I'll be taking those lame cases from the other attorney in the office more often. "$500 bucks to draft a contract? Sounds like a nanoreef to me, I'm on it."
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When I was a kid,I usually got the fish before the tank...he he
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Does the tank have a light? If you want to get really nerdy high light, co2 injection etc planted tank is the way to go, but I'd say keep it simple seeing as this is your daughters tank (and it's already started). If you really get into it set up your own tank in the future.

For easy, low light, no substrate needed plants java moss, java fern and anubais are hard to beat.
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