its cold for me around 72 F,I usually stay in for an hour looking at stuff so wet suit is good, i cought that one by hand danny in one of the pics in the gallary you see it next to the boil lets do a camping trip up there id go there more if i could ill try to recrute more people from the club i gat a tent that sleeps like 10 people with like three rooms its only like $30 a night and bathroom are allways clean plus the camp site has water and electic.