Yeah I saw those koi swords just a few days ago and they looked real bad. Only time would tell and I guess you said it. I know when I was there on wednesday, they didn't have any flowerhorns (not like I have any room for them). I was heading over there anyways tomorrow in route to my inlaws, so I won't be wasting any gas.... Yes, into snakehead country. Don't think Ill be able to fish the hole in their backyard, but I'll try and let you know if that big one is still in there.